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2006 had Finlay's return, WWE Classics On Demand, some really solid early WWECW (including Show's inexplicably fun TV matches), and the ladder match where Mercury broke his face. Not saying it wasn't a shitty, count-the-good-on-one-hand year but it wasn't the dirt worst. No one murdered their family or anything.
 

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It's more how much was packed into that time. It's weird looking back how much they were able to accomplish and be pretty much the best versions of themselves in such a small amount of time.

Edge was never as good as he was with Lita. As an Edge fan I've been chasing that scumbag high for so long.
 

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Sorry I hurt your feelings, Brody.
I just find your arguments about Watts and Vince as businessmen to be odd. Especially in a business where everyone either got piggy backed into power or was a founding father of the modern era.
Karbo predates the AWA as a Minnesota wrestling promoter. He was the top guy until he was smart enough to align with Vince in late 85 when he and Verne finally had a falling out.
Watts was part of the Eddie Graham tree and ousted Leroy McGurk from prominence.
Jerry Jarrett had to do a hostile takeover in Memphis.
Fritz was a real estate millionaire and as soon as the business fell off, sold his shares of WCCW and laughed all the way to the bank.
Crockett mismanaged his father's empire, eliminated all the non wrestling avenues and finally sunk it into insolvency.

Would you be happier if Vince Sr had sold to Monsoon and WWWF was swallowed up by Crockett or Verne instead when Hogan never comes back to NY? Or Vince Sr dies and Vince just inherits it instead of the wheeling, dealing, dirty payoffs for Gorilla and company?
 

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This is probably not a good time to mention that Jerry Jarrett got Memphis after his mom, Teeny, worked her way up from ticket taker to wresting control from Gulas/Welch. Gulas, of course, failed because of his, well, I won't finish this sentence.
 

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That was so weird. I remember thinking that this must be a serious injury because they never talked about it on TV, and that the lost smile thing was fucking stupid and kind of irrelvant but ok. Then they ran a WWF Champion version of "Tell Me A Lie" a couple times in the coming weeks which made it feel automatically like a work trying to go to the well again, and then Shawn's sproinging around at the Slammy's like nothing, and then took the ringpost figure four the night after Wrestlemania, and the whole thing felt like a colassal insult.
 

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Big shocker to see that headline in the Apters back then. Kind of funny they couldn't even get Hogan working a Clash for less than 250K in 1995 but he did the job here for 50K or whatever. Jacques' "retirement" stuck so well he was taking Vince checks within 8 months or so.
 

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The retirement show was in October ‘94 with Jacques beating Pierre in the Quebecers Explode show. Still the fact that Jacques was in WWF within a year of Hogan to showing up to job to him is a very WCW moment.

I wonder if the Quebecers getting another cup of coffee in WWF was a panic move from WWF not wanting to burn the Montreal market. They sure as shit didn’t have any plans to push the Quebecers in 1998.
 

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The retirement show was in October ‘94 with Jacques beating Pierre in the Quebecers Explode show. Still the fact that Jacques was in WWF within a year of Hogan to showing up to job to him is a very WCW moment.

I wonder if the Quebecers getting another cup of coffee in WWF was a panic move from WWF not wanting to burn the Montreal market. They sure as shit didn’t have any plans to push the Quebecers in 1998.
You are correct. He works 4 other matches (3 TV tapings) before leaving in June.

His last match is a Nitro in Chicago
16K drawn to see Mongo headline in a tag against Norton. Very intriguing on paper.

I recall the Quebecers working the Godwins at the Feb IYH, but I can't recall if they had a manager or anything.
 

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Did Tennessee Lee turn on them to align with The Godwinns?

Honestly, if they weren’t banged up and jobbed out by WCW (outside of Montreal), they would have been solid foils for the New Age Outlaws.

I can’t think of them winning any notable matches in WWF or WCW after they lost the Tag Team titles to The Headshrinkers.
 

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This feels like the biggest pushed thing in the Apters and whatever that didn't actually draw decently.

I still think it would have been mega cool to run something like this with Pro Wrestling USA and get some classic teams like Crusher/Bruiser, Kangaroos, etc involved on top of the territory standards.
 

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It kind of makes sense in the big picture. With his only friend gone, he feels the need to betray Warrior.

They should have just done Hogan and Warrior Vs Sgt. Slaughter, Jake and Taker at SummerSlam ‘91 and had Slaughter eat the pin to write him off as a main eventet then Jake and Taker could have ruined Macho Man’s wedding like they did.

Adnan and Col. Mustafa were weakest WWE PPV main event participants for a long, long time and are still probably in the bottom 10 if not five.
 

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That's sort of what I thought. Like I had vague memories of the Warrior stuff and thought it was after Jake had turned already because Damien dying just made him go crazy.

Sheik is still Sheik and even when he was all bloated and bowlegged he was still at one point a legit badass. He was toast but he still used to be an ultimate bad guy. Adnan, though, is the worst main event participant of the era and seeing Hogan or Warrior sell for him is just ridiculous.

Why wasn't Taker at Summerslam again?
 
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