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Vintage Independent Wrestling Thread: Discuss the Stars of Today Yesterday When They Were Stars of Tomorrow

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Are they debating over how best to botch spots, either slipping and trying again (SAT) or giving your little brother a concussion (Briscoes)?
 

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Watching some old TNA got me wondering if, or how much, the SAT probably resent Red.
 

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I listened to them on a TNA History podcast and they seemed like incredibly good natured dudes that are happy with their legacy but I *do* think Joel and Red had some sort of falling out over them having competing wrestling schools in the early 2010s.
 

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SAT were always good dudes. Very out going and friendly when I would go to their shows in the early 2000s. Red doesn’t have the greatest reputation as far being as good a person. A friend of mine works for HOG and has trained there, before he got hurt. Red has a reputation of blacklisting wrestlers if they tried to find work outside of HOG, and just treating trainees like trash at times. In a similar way to Quackenbush, he would tell the trainees that they need to stay with HOG because they will give them steady work, and not to contact outside promoters.
 

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Which means he's an absolute shit trainer, because why wouldn't you want your talent going onward to making names for themselves and then saying "I was trained by so-and-so"?
 

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Stuff I find out when I'm bored at work

"Beef Stew" Lou Marconi (or an immediate family member) definitely wrote their own Wikipedia entry.


In November 2012, Cueball Carmichael was asked by longtime friend Manny Fernandez for assistance in finding talent to perform at upcoming World Wrestling Entertainment house shows in the Mid-Atlantic area. Marconi and Pat Cusick, both experienced and former WWF preliminary wrestlers, were handpicked by Carmichael with the possibility of WWE tryout matches. A week before their first scheduled match, the four men began preparing for the event at Fernandez' training facility in South Carolina. All four men spent considerable time away from their regular jobs and families traveling to South Carolina; it was a daily six-hour drive for Carmichael and Marconi. Each of the wrestlers submitted their paperwork to Amanda Tustian, a WWE booking executive. Although Marconi was the only wrestler not contacted by Tustian, she confirmed that Marconi was booked in a conversation with Fernandez prior to the event. On December 2, when they arrived at the first WWE event at the Greensboro Coliseum, officials were unable to find his paperwork and WWE Executive Mark Carrano ordered security to escort Marconi from the building. Carmichael alleged that Marconi was verbally abused by both Carrano and building security. Afterwards, Carmichael made a public statement criticizing WWE for the disrespectful way it had treated Marconi and declared he would have no further association with the company. Tustian later admitted to Fernandez that Marconi's paperwork had not been processed due to the Thanksgiving weekend.[9]
Ya hate to see it.

Also I never got the "Beef Stew" nickname. Who puts macaraoni/marconi in their beef stew?
 
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From the little I know, it seems that Coralluzzo was either very well-liked or outright hated. He pulled some massively shady shit on Tod Gordon (when Gordon was one of the prime NWA promoters, no less) and, later, was removed from the NWA board for making some racist comments.
 

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I need to get in with these guys. The history here is amazing and I would love to learn more.
 

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No joke: I'm gonna believe most prominent indy stars posted on the old board in the early-mid 2000s. Some might have just browsed but considering the connection we had at the time, I'm sure most people had working knowledge of TSM.
 
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