wikileaks

[BUTT]

I think it sounds more like the name of an actor who plays the villain in a comic book movie. He's toiled away in semi-obscurity for the past ten years in bit character roles in major action movies but his following is more from the cult favorite horror/sci-fi films in which he gets to flex his acting muscles. The fanbase rejoices when it's announced that Julian Assange is playing The Jekill in the reboot of Kryzor; he's just perfect for the role. They finally got it right this time, unlike the campy 80s version where he was played by Harvey Fierstein.

 

[Czech]

Actually, he looks like a (more?) reptilian Bill Maher.

 

[BUTT]

I see the main dude from Queer Eye For The Straight Guy and a little bit of Raiden as played by Christopher Lambert.

 

[NoCalMike]

Obama working with Senate Republicans to stifle a possible investigation & lawsuit into the Bush Administration for torture and other violations.

Good ol' boys club indeed.

 

[snuffbox]

No way dude. There was nothing in those leaks at all. Assange should stop preening

 

[KOAB]

What have we learned from the recent documents released?

1) Everything exposed is ok because 'everyone else does it!'

2) The leakers & the wikileaks people should be killed anyway

will these leakers are just trying to hurt America so we should deal with people like this by hanging.

 

[KOAB]

"Julian Assange" sounds like the name of the villain from a comic book movie. He sort of looks like one, too.

"All is going as planned."

that is the face of someone who would be killed at the end of a Die Hard.

 

[Dobbs3K]

They've arrested him in London. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40544697/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/

 

[snuffbox]

http://www.bradleymanning.org/what-can-i-do/

 

[KOAB]

 

[BUTT]

 

[snuffbox]

American Exceptionalism, fuck yeah!

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/columbia-wikileaks-policy/

I don't get how they can be so stupid to ban students from viewing it in the first place. It's obvious they'd be forced to back down. All the companies folding to pressure to cut off Wikileaks is funny/sad.

 

[snuffbox]

No it's not! Have you seen Julian Assange?

 

[Dobbs3K]

Now people behind or supporting Wikileaks are attacking Visa and Mastercard websites. The whole thing is devolving into cyberterrorism.

 

[snuffbox]

Yeah, or not.

 

[Dobbs3K]

Yeah, or not.

OK, how would you define it?

Edit: More on this story here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007182352309942.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

 

[snuffbox]

Hacking

 

[Dobbs3K]

Hacking

Semantics

 

[snuffbox]

No. You can't just call stuff 'terrorism'

 

[909]

How isn't it? Effectively blowing up a site that people need to do their business on is what? Terrorism isn't a term you can pick and choose to place on subjects you support or dislike.

 

[snuffbox]

That's what I'm saying. Just because you think American Exceptionalism is supercool or that Julian Assange is a movie villain doesn't turn computer hacking into terrorism.

 

[Mattdotcom]

Poison Pill is one term given to the multitude of documents Julian Assange is threatening to release, if he's imprisoned, dies, or if WikiLeaks is destroyed.

As CNN reports, the founder of WikiLeaks has managed the data, so that a release of documents would be impossible to stop.

In an interview with the network, Hemu Nigam who has worked in computer security for more than 20 years says:

"It's all tech talk to say, 'I have in my hand a button and if I press it or I order my friends to press it, it will go off.

"Julian is saying, 'I've calibrated this so that no matter how many ways you try, you're never going to be able to deactivate it.

Nigam went on to suggest Assange is positive his document safeguard is secure.

"He's sending a call to action to hackers to try it. To the government, he's also saying, 'Try me.'"

On Tuesday, Assange was arrested in London in relation to sex crimes investigation in Sweden.

He has been denied bail and officials say Assange is expected to remain in jail for about a week.

Assange reportedly refused to be photographed or fingerprinted or have a swab taken of his DNA.

His organization fulfilled an earlier promise to release more documents this week. At least 75 cables were released Tuesday.


Read more: http://www.thirdage.com/news/poison-pill-more-wikileaks-documents-waiting-be-released_12-8-2010#ixzz17Zm6OnAg

Total super villain bravado.

 

[909]

I don't feel either way about any of it. Perhaps you should apply that to yourself considering your posts indicate you think he's a saint. But as usual it is nice for you to point that out while ignoring your own obvious biases. I am pretty neutral to the matter honestly. He is free to do what he pleases.

ter·ror·ism

–noun

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

2 : violent and intimidating gang activity

What's this anyways? Anon are cyber-terrorists so I don't know why you feel the need to say different.

 

[snuffbox]

I dont say the US government is making terrorist acts by hacking wikileaks, either.

 

[909]

Where's your proof/admission that they did? Wikileaks said they had bombshells to unleash and I'm still waiting for them. I really want to read them. It's called sensationalism. They do a great job at drumming up press for anything they are going to released, that is what they're good at. I thought you criticized those who believe everything they read blindly and unwittingly?

In any case it is not Wikileaks who committed these acts. You aren't obligated to defend them when they haven't done this. The people who did do it are proud of it, proud of being called terrorists, they think it's funny and they really don't need anybody to defend them.

 

[snuffbox]

I think the bombshell stuff or whatever will only be released if wikileaks is completely shut down or if Assange gets Jack Ruby'd or something.

 

[SpiderPoetV3]

I call it info-terrorism. Here's why: attacking sites of companies that took an ideological stand against you is terrorism. It's an attempt to strike fear into others for daring to disagree with you. It's disruptive to people who have no dog in the fight at all (employees of these companies, people using their services). It's hurting people for disagreeing with you, and hurting people collaterally. It's an attitude that is part of what they claim to stand against. It's deep hypocrisy born of an entitlement culture. But we do not have the right to know everything and anything in real time. In their statements about the attacks, the hackers called them "billion dollar companies," exposing an elitist attitude against wealth, and possibly capitalism. Coupled with the knowledge that part of the encrypted files is information intended to likely harm Bank of America, it exposes these people's real ideology and true intent. They mean to cause harm, not promote freedom. It's juvenile. It solves nothing, says nothing worth truly saying, it isn't "cool" or "fun", its dangerous, immature thinking. It's kids playing at grownup stuff.


That's my two cents anyway. I think the MasterCard/Visa/web attacks should be viewed at least as criminal.

 

[snuffbox]

But not the attacks on Wikileaks, right?

 

[SpiderPoetV3]

An organization actively divulging state secrets, arguably with intent to harm, not intent to promote freedom. I have zero sympathy for WikiLeaks. People act like every bit of these cables is on par with a chopper firing on civilians. It isn't. It's sensitive diplomatic material that they're releasing simply because they know it will harm America in the long run. They don't have the right to the information, and there's frankly nothing illegal being exposed. In fact, an NPR analyst this evening said that many of the cables see the US doing in secret what it says its doing in public. But the point is that diplomats need the security to freely discuss and analyze the analogues, peers and leaders they are dealing with.

For an organization run by a dude who isn't American, promoting freedom of information, they don't seem to be targeting anyone else. Think through what's happening around you, critically. Julian Assange doesn't like America. Period. I don't see how you can't see WikiLeaks as an info-terrorist organization whose motive is harm, not ideals.