WWF New Generation Thread III

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think it was the motorcycle accident in ‘92 and almost losing his right arm. After that he was justifiably cautious and did just enough to get by.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1578786548375465984

From what Wrestlingdata has, Samu works 2 random WWF matches in late Sept and vanishes from all available results.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579179745589497856

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Bret Hart, Jerry Lawler, And Kane To Appear On WWE Table For 3 | Fightful News

Three WWE Hall of Famers will appear on the newest episode of WWE Table For 3.

www.fightful.com

Not sure if I necessarily need to see Bret Hart and Jerry Lawler reunite and reminisce about their mediocre to poor '95 feud but if it takes Kane away from being a MAGA Mayor for a few hours then OK.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579628681328459777

Sort of interesting stuff...

 

[Mickey Massuco]

I actually found that really interesting, thanks for sharing. He shouldn't be too hard on himself for not being able to get a good match out of bob holly.

 

[Valeyard]

They pissed away so much money by not using him well. I mean when someone debuts and starts carrying around Bret's severed head in a bag just to challenge him, and looks badass doing it, you at minimum let him hover around the IC title until the end.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I can't believe that they dragged Hakushi in with the Barry Horowitz-Skip feud. I mean that is some horribly underrated awful booking. Although the finish to the SummerSlam '95 match was cool.

 

[alkeiper]

All booking aside. The position that Hakushi was in, being in a foreign country on national tv with a threadbare support system, that has to be terrifying.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Without checking the WONs - was this some sort of "young boy" training thing where he goes to the US for a year to develop and somehow Vince spotted him? Given the booking, it makes sense that Bret saw some tapes and pitched for him.
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In case y'all didn't read the comments the "Mr Saito" he mentions is a typo. It is Akio Sato in each case.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580168482259599360

(Pushes up glasses and takes pump from inhaler)
Well actually it WAS a Superstars taping. That’s why they had a full camera crew there.

Coming up on 30 years of the New Generation. Lol we’re old

 

[Valeyard]

For two guys who never clicked Bret and Flair were awesome together. Now that should've been the Rumble main event.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah. Hindsight being 20/20. Hart Vs Flair: Title Vs Career should've been the World Title match at Rumble. My only guess as to why it wasn't was they probably didn't want to overshadow the Rumble matchz?

 

[Valeyard]

The Rumble had only two functions, though: get Gonzalez over and get Yokozuna over. I don't know if both of those get impeded by Flair/Bret on top.

I would still book the Flair/Perfect match on Raw, but the stakes being if Flair won the title he'd have literally everything to lose. Since he would lose to Bret anyway it wouldn't matter but another layer of intrigue would work and since Flair had been the top heel for the last year and in a hot feud with Perfect, it wasn't impossible that he could win.

It's fucking weird that Scott Hall was never in a Rumble, too. He could've been final four that year.

 

[TheSSNintendo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580168482259599360

(Pushes up glasses and takes pump from inhaler)
Well actually it WAS a Superstars taping. That’s why they had a full camera crew there.

Coming up on 30 years of the New Generation. Lol we’re old

Legend has it that on a clear night, you can still hear Mr. Perfect screaming "Saskatoon!!"

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577028364548071424

GDI. A weird part of me wants to see this match.

 

[Valeyard]

Gonzalez was actually brought in to be the Yeti but had a diabetic issue during the show, so WCW panicked and put the mummy suit on Reese. We got robbed of a potential Gonzalez, Giant, Loch Ness Dungeon of Meat.

 

[BruiserBrody]

To add to our hot Warrior talk:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580174518139912193

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Gonzalez was actually brought in to be the Yeti but had a diabetic issue during the show, so WCW panicked and put the mummy suit on Reese. We got robbed of a potential Gonzalez, Giant, Loch Ness Dungeon of Meat.

Reese was going to be in there too. IIRC, doing his Super Giant Ninja gimmick so they could bill World War 3 as "A GIANT IN EVERY RING!" (Yeti, Reese, and Paul Wight).

El Gigante did do tours of NJPW and WAR in '94-'95. NASH probably counts his blessings that as bad as SID and Mabel were, he never had to try and carry big Jorge.

Looking at Gonzalez's Cagematch, it looks like he had a Memphis run after SummerSlam '93. I want to see Lawler Vs Giant Gonzalez maybe even more than Hulk Hogan Vs Giant Gonzalez. I feel like if anyone could make Giant Gonzalez look good, it's King.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

My lucky day.

And yes, Lawler selling Giant Gonzalez's piddly offense is just as good as it played in my head.

Edit- If you ever want to see Giant Gonzalez take a fireball to the face this is the match for you. He sells it as comically bad as he does anything else.

 

[Valeyard]

Man whoever told him to sell anything should be ashamed of themselves. Dude's near 8 feet legit and has limited mobility as it is, he shouldn't sell anything short of a shotgun to the nuts.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Valeyard]

Was Dibiase full-on religious yet in 1995?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580636953254723584

 

[Sex Machine Gun]

You ever think we'll hear the real story there one day?

 

[Fall of Epic]

I think it's just a lot of smoke that wrestlers perpetuate to amuse themselves. I don't buy into any of the Savage/Stephanie stuff.

 

[Valeyard]

It's not real. Frankly I don't think anyone even thought about it until a random post in the sleaze thread happened.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

A lot of it can be blamed on stupid loud mouthed Lanny not shutting it down during that era when he would not stop doing shoot interviews.

When his own brother says “Well I never asked him so I don’t know.” then it allows the sleaze merchants to keep yapping.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581988595971149824

It’s still bizarre that Warrior was in WWF for the first three or four weeks of Bret’s World Title run.


If I think about Bret’s claim that Bret-Warrior was an early idea for WrestleMania IX main event too much, I will get depressed that I never got to see that match.