2020 Election

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah. I can't say I'm not concerned that the Democrats might've lost the Rust Belt forever.

I know Obama won there but I think that was result of high voter turnout which the Republicans are doing everything they can to prevent.

Trump's reelection strategy seems political equivalent of Sgt. Slaughter's strategy at WrestleMania VII. He'll do whatever it takes is necessary to keep his title even if it means cheating or getting disqualified.

 

[snuffbox]

People are, imo, more internet-y now than they were in 2008 and '12. Looking at a bunch of dumbass memes as 'research,' believing anything/everything because they "saw it on facebook," etc. Mostly people 30s and up but they vote. And we're fucked.

 

[AA484]

Edit: wrong thread

 

[snuffbox]

thats just what they want you to think

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295513015597568005

I hate this timeline, guys.

 

[tekcop]

Love living in American and getting to choose between the Republican party or the Racism, Homophobia and Conspiracy Theory party.

 

[snuffbox]

Both sides!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295571334873985024

 

[snuffbox]

Others speakers to include Maxwell live from prison
Paul Manafort
Rod Blogetc
The cop that murdered George Floyd
Falwell Jr
Vladimir Putin

 

[tekcop]

Both sides!

I don't even know what this means anymore!

 

[snuffbox]

The feeling is mutual.

 

[909]

The Colin Powell at the DNC thing is so fucking bad. Venerating Colin Powell is something I am not capable of accepting. This party needs a huge reality check. That I am going to still vote for Biden doesn't change anything, but they won't get another cent from me.

 

[snuffbox]

I get what they're trying to do. After losing by winning by 3 million votes, they're trying to do everything possible not to lose again this year. Politically, it's a good strategy (although I'm not sure they can get all that many crossover votes). Booking Kasich was probably more about trying to swing Ohio than anything national (I don't think it will work). Cindy McCain could help a little nationally, maybe help swing AZ.

No, this doesn't mean that I'm filled with joy about this. There's plenty to not like. Like venerating these W Bush, Iraq War people like 909 mentioned. I wish we weren't in this position. But I think voting for Biden is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, as is too often the case, the right thing is far from the easy or pleasant thing.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

its absolutely disgusting. it feels like a sellout to never trumpers. I'd like to believe that it's a "clever" election strategy and once it's done and Biden has won these POS will be told to crawl back under a rock but I don't have faith anymore. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[snuffbox]

It's probably important to note that these Republicans aren't being given any more time than the progressives. Sanders has been given more time, effort, and consideration than anyone else; that should be telling. The main event last night was not Kasich, it was, far and away, Michelle Obama. These GOP folks are being given just enough time (and their speeches, endorsements, commercials, appearances, etc seem to used for specific things of the Democrats' design) to maybe peel off some Trump votes.

It's not perfect, it's not ideal, lesser evils, yadda yadda. But I maintain that seeking perfection is not the right thing to do. Not when the other side, which is in power, is so all around, 100% literal evil. I think it is best to sacrifice some of our own personal wants in favor of defeating those for whom cruelty is the point.

 

[909]

Kanye and the green party guy are tossed from the Wisconsin ballot for fraud/incomptence.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295879022308663298

Thread buried in there.

 

[snuffbox]

Maybe it's just me but on the rare occasion when there's actual voter fraud, it is almost always a Republican.

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

Maybe it's just me but on the rare occasion when there's actual voter fraud, it is almost always a Republican.

It is. Republicans project all the bad shit they do on everyone else.

 

[BruiserBrody]

October is going to be nuts with the Ukraine "report" Barr is going to unleash, combined with what I have to believe will be a hard push towards Biden as a pedo in ads.

The Senate Russia report did not even make it in the top half of our local news this AM. I went back to work then, so I have no idea if they even touched on it.

 

[snuffbox]

I don't think Barr can do anything to sway a single vote. Every single person who's dumb enough to believe anything he says or does is already a set-in-stone Trump vote.

Not worried about any potential ads featuring Biden hugging people. The memes about that have been around for over a year and haven't moved the needle a bit; it's the same as above, anybody who would fall for that routine was already a decided voter anyway. And each of those potential ads will be more than erased with ads showing Trump partying with Epstein, wishing Maxwell well, talking about "grabbing em by the pussy," saying his own daughter is a "piece of ass," etc, whether run by the Lincoln Project or others.

 

[tekcop]

But I maintain that seeking perfection is not the right thing to do.

I think it's absolutely ludicrous to call inviting John Kasich and Colin Powell to speak at the DNC as just "not seeking perfection." At this point, I'm not sure what Biden and the DNC could do to get people to say something other than "well, at least he's better than Trump."

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I think it's absolutely ludicrous to call inviting John Kasich and Colin Powell to speak at the DNC as just "not seeking perfection." At this point, I'm not sure what Biden and the DNC could do to get people to say something other than "well, at least he's better than Trump."

Medicare for All would be a good start. Supporting legitimate progressive tax policy and workers rights, too. Getting Wall Street out of Congress, a Green New Deal...you know, all the things that people on the left have been talking about for **checks notes** 20 years or more.

 

[tekcop]

I meant how far right can Biden go before people balk at voting for him.

 

[Gary]

I think it's absolutely ludicrous to call inviting John Kasich and Colin Powell to speak at the DNC as just "not seeking perfection." At this point, I'm not sure what Biden and the DNC could do to get people to say something other than "well, at least he's better than Trump."

I mean, I kinda get why they'd invite Cindy McCain since her husband and Biden were friends, but John Kasich (who made things nearly impossible for women when it comes to women's health) and Colin Powell? This is the kind of shit they should be avoiding, not becoming. I mean, I get courting moderates, but there's barely anything as far as progressive policy making is concerned.

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

Don’t care if he invites Mitch McConnell. It’s a binary choice. And it isn’t close.

 

[Brooklyn Zoo]

Also, I disagree about the lack of progressive policy. The platform is progressive and right now they’re trying to get everyone else on board. Public option for healthcare is a step in the right direction, taxes will be increased on the wealthy, college will be free for people who can’t afford it, and they have a comprehensive climate plan. It’s not all the way there but it’s moving in the right direction.

Anytime they asked John Kasich about some of Biden’s more progressive policies he always says that it’s okay if they disagree on things. Let’s relax on this idea that it’s some moderate right wing campaign.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296208610234634240

He's endorsing Qanon shit in press briefings.

 

[snuffbox]

Yeah, I'm going to stick with supporting Biden/Harris.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Also, I disagree about the lack of progressive policy. The platform is progressive and right now they’re trying to get everyone else on board. Public option for healthcare is a step in the right direction, taxes will be increased on the wealthy, college will be free for people who can’t afford it, and they have a comprehensive climate plan. It’s not all the way there but it’s moving in the right direction.

Anytime they asked John Kasich about some of Biden’s more progressive policies he always says that it’s okay if they disagree on things. Let’s relax on this idea that it’s some moderate right wing campaign.

agree with this a lot. The Dem's platform has been changed to try to reach out at least somewhat to disenchanted progressives. I think it's interesting how much your view has changed over the last few years considering you voted third party last time. I'd like to think a lot of other people have realized just how destructive Trump has been. Not just third party voters but people who fell for Trump's BS.

 

[909]

My problem is more with the naivety some party officials have in terms of accepting support from those who shouldn't have a platform.

The platform for this election campaign is plenty good enough for me.