30 for 30/Sports Documentaries Discussion

[wnyxmcneal]

Tonight it's Four Days in October about the Red Sox comeback in '04. Bill Simmons and Lenny Clarke are supposed to be featured but don't let that keep you away because I've heard it's really good and shows footage the players themselves shot.

AV Club gave it a C

 

[Big Beard Booty Daddy]

This needs to be like 6 hours longer. They had to gloss over a lot of stuff.

I loved this one. I could have watched more of this, it was still as captivating as when I first watched it happen.

 

[Broward83]

Once Brothers is fucking awesome...sad I missed the first half.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

This needs to be like 6 hours longer. They had to gloss over a lot of stuff.

I loved this one. I could have watched more of this, it was still as captivating as when I first watched it happen.

Just watched this and agree. Bill/Lenny sucked but the NESN clips, ESPN clips, player footage, all just really captivating to watch.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

I hate NASCAR, but my favourite was definitely the one on Tim Richmond. Pretty fascinating story, and I had no idea about how such a great driver had his life cut short during his prime because of AIDS. I feel like at some point I must have come across this, but nope. The only complaint is that they glossed over the idea that he might have intentionally exposed others to the virus, which is pretty unnerving.

 

[wnyxmcneal]

The Red Sox doc was pointless, but I really liked the story about Vlade Divac and Drazen Petrovic

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

*bump*

I've got the repeat of "Pony Excess" set to record tomorrow night. I heard it's one of the better installments to air in a while. The last bunch haven't been quite up to par IMHO. I just watched the Little League World Series one from to clear it off my DVR and man, there'd been average to middling installments but that was the first one I thought "Well, that kind of sucked". Too bad because I think there was a good documentary subject in there buried beneath the ridiculously hyperbolic narration. "Kirkland, Washington's victory over Taiwan helped heal a wounded nation..." WTF?

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Yeah, the "Pony Express" episode was quite solid overall and felt longer than the other episodes that have aired. Very in-depth look from the start to the end and even did a quickie epilogue of sorts with the recent hiring of June Jones. I especially loved the variety of interviews featured.

 

[Danville_Wrestling]

I often wonder what the NCAA would do with an SMU-type situation today. I don't think they'd give them the death penalty, since the NCAA seems like they won't do that to a program ever again.

 

[still fly]

Uhhh, USC was given the toughest sanctions since SMU this year brah

 

[wnyxmcneal]

Uhhh, USC was given the toughest sanctions since SMU this year brah

Brah?

The NCAA has done the death penalty since SMU but to Division II and Division III schools.

I know Kentucky in the late 80s-early 90s was close to getting death penaltyed.

 

[Danville_Wrestling]

Yeah, but I don't know if the NCAA really has the balls to really do that to a Division I program anymore, especially if they are in a big media market. Sure, the USC sanctions were harsh, but they aren't near death penalty level.

If the NCAA had given UK the death penalty in the late 1980s there would've been a riot. No joke. Basketball is life for people here in the Bluegrass state and it wouldn't have been pretty. People who want to talk about the USC sanctions haven't got anything on UK during that period. We couldn't even play on television IN OUR OWN STATE for a year! The only good thing to come out of the debacle was that we lucked into Rick Pitino. The AD wanted PJ Carlisimo and Pat Riley, but both declined and thank god for that.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Just watched the episode Once Brothers and I think it's my favorite of all of them thus far. Probably the most emotional one too.

 

[Gert]

Yeah, but I don't know if the NCAA really has the balls to really do that to a Division I program anymore, especially if they are in a big media market. Sure, the USC sanctions were harsh, but they aren't near death penalty level.

If the NCAA had given UK the death penalty in the late 1980s there would've been a riot. No joke. Basketball is life for people here in the Bluegrass state and it wouldn't have been pretty. People who want to talk about the USC sanctions haven't got anything on UK during that period. We couldn't even play on television IN OUR OWN STATE for a year! The only good thing to come out of the debacle was that we lucked into Rick Pitino. The AD wanted PJ Carlisimo and Pat Riley, but both declined and thank god for that.

I think the no media rights were finished after the Auburn team (93?) since they realized it was a pointless ban since it hurt the teams playing the offender as much as the team with the sanctions.

 

[alkeiper]

Watching the Ali/Holmes documentary. Watching the training footage, its amazing anyone thought Ali was in condition to fight Holmes. Its even more amazing that Ali fought again after the Holmes fight.

 

[Danville_Wrestling]

I wish they would do a 30 for 30 on the Unforgettables, the seniors on the 1992 UK basketball team that stuck around when the sanctions hit and who were the nucleus of the team (minus Jamal Mashburn) that took Duke to the limit in the regional final. Fox Sports did a small one a few years back, but I imagine ESPN could do a better job.

 

[jimmy no nose]

I've watched about half of the Bartman show so far. So far there's been as much talk about the Red Sox as the Cubs.

 

[Big Beard Booty Daddy]

Is it only about Bartman? I thought it was supposed to be about fans placing blame on others for their team losing.

 

[Aero]

Yeah, the director, a Boston fan, wanted to really drive home the parallels between the Buckner play and Bartman, in regards to the fanbase reactions. I watched this the other day and thought it was about as well done as it could possibly be without Bartman, himself, being interviewed.

Edit: Bearhugger, Bartman is the primary focus, but it relates it to Boston's troubles, as well.

 

[Mattdotcom]

I had no intentions of watching Roll Tide/War Eagle, but someone put it on against my complaints. It was one of the worst things I've ever seen. A million Internet bucks to whoever can explain to me the point of the possibly retarded piano player dressed in the white gown with Hercules armbands.

 

[MillenniumMan831]

I can't wait for 2014 when ESPN Films can put together a documentary about Cleveland not winning diddley dick in any sport for 50 years.

 

[Mattdotcom]

 

[MillenniumMan831]

He's from Parma. Justin Roberts is a fountain of misinformation.

 

[KingPK]

I've been catching up on these with Netflix the last month or so. Just watched Once Brothers and it no question is the best one of the entire series. Just engrossing to watch all the way through.

The Bartman one was good when they focused on the Cubs and seemingly the fans melting down after the play; they were so tightly wound that Alou's tantrum followed by FOX's incessant replays of the incident made a bad situation so much worse. If that happened today Bartman's home address and number would be on Twitter before the inning was over.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Bumping this for next week's episode which looks interesting. Elway to Marino (8:00 PM ET - 9:30) covering the 6 QBs selected in the 1983 NFL Draft.

The NC State one a few weeks ago was good and somewhat emotional as well given the subject matter.

 

[bps21]

I'm watching it now and it's fantastic.

I didn't know this story about the league probably killing a trade that would have landed Elway to the Raiders...probably because Al Davis had spent 3 years suing the league to move the team.

Or that the Niners explored getting Elway and ditching Montana.

 

[bps21]

You know what's cool about this draft? Back with the old divisions all 5 teams in the AFC East took a QB in round 1.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

I too found the documentary fantastic, especially the trade options (including Dallas willing to trade QB Danny White). I also wonder what would have happened if the Raiders deal went through and Howie Long landed in KC while Elway went to Oakland.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

The latest one about John Spano frauding his way into owning the New York Islanders in 1996/1997 is absolutely fascinating in a holy fuck at every party way.

 

[Jaxxxson Mayhem]

I was most interested in E making the movie. Then again I was only partly paying attention.

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