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The Winnie the Pooh IP expired awhile back so everybody is trying to get their hook into it. This explains that dumb Pooh horror movie that was released a few month back.
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Bad Movies 2020 (and beyond)
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Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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Well yeah I know why they are doing it but that doesn’t mean they should.
God please shelter us for when the Mickey Mouse trademark expires soon.
God please shelter us for when the Mickey Mouse trademark expires soon.
Renfield belongs in here. One of the least enjoyable movies I've watched in a while
I watched it yesterday and kind of hated it. Nic Cage wasn't in it as much as I was expecting and it's painfully unfunny. Awkwafina feels a tad miscast as a tough cop, but she did fine with what she had. Way too much Ben Schwartz for me as well. He's fine in Parks and Rec, but he grated me here.
RedJed
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Narrative wise, it was the shits, I will agree. The story was less than even close to engaging and there was some major long form moments of really drab scenes of dialogue and in a really underdeveloped way. The only redeeming stuff was the action sequences which I think were alright, and Cage's performance deserved more focus on that. But I kinda agree, there really wasn't much of anything here to care about.
Fall of Epic
Epic Reine
I thought Renfield was fine. Nothing great but it was a decent 90 min. time waster. I didn't mind Awkwafina but agreed Ben Schwartz was intolerable.
Charlie Day wrote, directed, and starred in a movie called Fool's Paradise that's been on the shelf since 2019 and it's getting pretty terrible reviews. It's at 19% on Rotten Tomatoes and even the audience score is low at 43%. It's funny because it opened the same day as Blackberry with Glenn Howerton which is getting glowing reviews.
The cast is pretty great for it, but I'm not a Ken Jeong fan and he looks to have a major role in it. I love Charlie Day, but I don't think he has the physical comedy skills to do a completely silent performance ala Chaplin and Keaton.
The cast is pretty great for it, but I'm not a Ken Jeong fan and he looks to have a major role in it. I love Charlie Day, but I don't think he has the physical comedy skills to do a completely silent performance ala Chaplin and Keaton.
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Fall of Epic
Epic Reine
I didn't know what to make of that one after viewing the trailer. I was probably gonna watch it anyway because of Day but now probably not.
RedJed
Rasslin' Rambler
So yeah, I decided to do a Sunny double-shot of Blackberry (which was fantastic, I put a few thoughts in the general movie thread) and then headed to Fool's Paradise. Whoa, was this SOOOOO fucking bad!
First off, Day playing a deaf mute was a total and absolute failure. If it was just that, I think the film would be maybe bearable.
But then this mess ensues. I knew going into it within 5 minutes that this was going to be some garbage, but I didn't expect it to reach so much terrain of absolute cringworthy moment after moment, scene after scene. I didn't laugh or chuckle once at anything, and neither did the limited amount of others in this one. There were multiple moments where I was questioning just outright leaving, but decided to grin and bear it. Really feel like a fool for investing any time in this terrible mess.
I don't even know if I can explain the general story of this. It's so disconnected and strange that trying gives me a headache! I thought it was generally going to be a satire of Hollywood tropes, but they couldn't even get that right. All of the performances except a small few were a total catastrophe. Malvovich had a single actual scene of screentime, but made the most of it. Ray Liotta's stuff was certainly acceptable too, again in a very small dose as he had maybe only a half dozen scenes. And then Glenn Howarton in his VERY limited role (2 scenes I think) was ok. But again, nothing made me respond the way they probably intended to. But at least those three made something out of absolute shit.
This felt like maybe Day was intentionally attempting to make a really fuckin bad movie, there was even a scene where things got meta and Day's character's agent (Ken Jeong, who made me wanna scream at how annoying and awful scripted he was) was referencing bad reviews for a bad movie, etc. Whatever the case, this failed remarkebly on just every level of filmmaking. Absolutely the worst movie of the year so far. This even eclipsed bad horror like Children of the Corn for sure.
First off, Day playing a deaf mute was a total and absolute failure. If it was just that, I think the film would be maybe bearable.
But then this mess ensues. I knew going into it within 5 minutes that this was going to be some garbage, but I didn't expect it to reach so much terrain of absolute cringworthy moment after moment, scene after scene. I didn't laugh or chuckle once at anything, and neither did the limited amount of others in this one. There were multiple moments where I was questioning just outright leaving, but decided to grin and bear it. Really feel like a fool for investing any time in this terrible mess.
I don't even know if I can explain the general story of this. It's so disconnected and strange that trying gives me a headache! I thought it was generally going to be a satire of Hollywood tropes, but they couldn't even get that right. All of the performances except a small few were a total catastrophe. Malvovich had a single actual scene of screentime, but made the most of it. Ray Liotta's stuff was certainly acceptable too, again in a very small dose as he had maybe only a half dozen scenes. And then Glenn Howarton in his VERY limited role (2 scenes I think) was ok. But again, nothing made me respond the way they probably intended to. But at least those three made something out of absolute shit.
This felt like maybe Day was intentionally attempting to make a really fuckin bad movie, there was even a scene where things got meta and Day's character's agent (Ken Jeong, who made me wanna scream at how annoying and awful scripted he was) was referencing bad reviews for a bad movie, etc. Whatever the case, this failed remarkebly on just every level of filmmaking. Absolutely the worst movie of the year so far. This even eclipsed bad horror like Children of the Corn for sure.
RedJed
Rasslin' Rambler
He took it to a whole new level of cringe in this one. Maybe the most annoying and face palming performance I've seen in film in....maybe forever?
And the arc both his character and Day's character did at the end was so bizzare and strange, almost bordering on a love story between the two.
Fools Paradise is probably the worst movie I've seen in 5 years. It almost felt like a bet where Charlie Day had to make the most irritating movie possible. This is a Movie 43 level disaster.
The decision to give that much screen time and dialogue to Ken Jeong is so baffling. The decision to give him a dramatic scene might be more baffling. Lenny the publicist is by far the worst and most irritating character I've seen in a film in years.
Charlie Day is in over his head playing a silent character. His facial expressions got more cringe as the movie went along and the character lacked the outrageousness of similar manchildren like Mr. Bean and Pee Wee. His character just felt more sad than anything.
Famous faces bounce in and out of the movie usually screaming and embarrassing themselves. The John Malkovich scene was especially obnoxious.
And the biggest crime is that on top of all that, it manages to be incredibly boring. I was barely able to finish and it felt much longer than it was. The ending is also one of the most rushed you'll ever see.
If I had to say something positive, it's a nice looking movie and some of the scenery shots were pretty, but that's it.
1/10
The decision to give that much screen time and dialogue to Ken Jeong is so baffling. The decision to give him a dramatic scene might be more baffling. Lenny the publicist is by far the worst and most irritating character I've seen in a film in years.
Charlie Day is in over his head playing a silent character. His facial expressions got more cringe as the movie went along and the character lacked the outrageousness of similar manchildren like Mr. Bean and Pee Wee. His character just felt more sad than anything.
Famous faces bounce in and out of the movie usually screaming and embarrassing themselves. The John Malkovich scene was especially obnoxious.
And the biggest crime is that on top of all that, it manages to be incredibly boring. I was barely able to finish and it felt much longer than it was. The ending is also one of the most rushed you'll ever see.
If I had to say something positive, it's a nice looking movie and some of the scenery shots were pretty, but that's it.
1/10
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Youth N Asia
Boners, and farts.
Probably catch this one on a streamer a few months after it’s released.
Gary
Mind. Body. Light. Sound.
I see Hollywood still doesn't know how to use Iko Uwais.
That was worse than I was expecting and I didn't have high hopes. The first two have their moments, but overall I don't really like these movies. And the charm of the first three is seeing what actors are going to show up. 50 Cent and Megan Fox feel extremely low rent compared to who they were bringing in the previous movies.
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Big Papa Paegan
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...that actually looks better than the third did, so at least there's that
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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Hollywood Cancelled Max Landis So He's Making Weird Pitch Movie Hybrids on Youtube Where He Plays Many of the Roles That are Surreally Terrible — Nathan Rabin's Happy Place
Hollywood cancelled Max Landis so he decided to make weird pitch/movie/reading hybrids where he plays most of the roles. it’s something! Something very bad.
www.nathanrabin.com
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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Hey. This is just like that ‘90s movie “The Bus That Couldn’t Slow Down”.
I'm not a Bill Burr fan, but obviously I get the appeal. Yet, this looks even worse than I imagined. The ranting old man comic is beyond stale to me at this point and these types of ugh millenial/zoomer jokes have been done ad nauseum. This has been the best year for comedy movies in a while too, but this looks insufferable.
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Bokeem Woodbine deserves better.
Gary
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Expend4bles is getting the kind of reviews you'd expect.
RedJed
Rasslin' Rambler
I spoke briefly on this in the "I watched" thread but this was a really terrible sequel, and I'd put it as a the worst franchise sequel of the year undoubtably.
Bad, real bad CGI....some scenes I swear I even saw the greenscreen outline in some scenes. The kills are more comically terrible than ever. The story is ridiculous and nonsensical more than usual with the franchise. A terrible villian who deserves a better role. And they really made a bad move by
Just sooooo fuckin bad all around. The action scenes are nothing to be impressed at either.
Bad, real bad CGI....some scenes I swear I even saw the greenscreen outline in some scenes. The kills are more comically terrible than ever. The story is ridiculous and nonsensical more than usual with the franchise. A terrible villian who deserves a better role. And they really made a bad move by
swerve killing off Sly Stallone's character very early in the film. He returns though at the end (with of course a stupid illogical reason how he didn't die) to help kill off the main baddies but by that point, you have to endure some really tedious and vanilla storytelling without him involved. This was a head scratcher of a move.
How they rebound from his "death" is a new Willis/Arnie/Harrison Ford leader in Andy Garcia is in the fold who, I guess, tries to fuck up the team from the inside out by being the hidden "real" leader of the villians at the end. This was yet another swerve that you could see from a mile away. Just terrible execution.
Also, for no discernable reason, Megan Fox all of a sudden out of fucking nowhere becomes the new leader of the Expendables. Again making no fucking sense at all in the script on how this came to be.
How they rebound from his "death" is a new Willis/Arnie/Harrison Ford leader in Andy Garcia is in the fold who, I guess, tries to fuck up the team from the inside out by being the hidden "real" leader of the villians at the end. This was yet another swerve that you could see from a mile away. Just terrible execution.
Also, for no discernable reason, Megan Fox all of a sudden out of fucking nowhere becomes the new leader of the Expendables. Again making no fucking sense at all in the script on how this came to be.
Just sooooo fuckin bad all around. The action scenes are nothing to be impressed at either.
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Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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Since we don’t have a Bad Movies 1977 thread
www.telegraph.co.uk
Fun fact: Martin Scorsese liked this more than the original.
Also it’s kind of funny that William Friedkin made Sorcerer, which was an even bigger bomb than this although that was reappraised as a cult classic. That hasn’t happened for Exorcist II: The Heretic, except for Scorsese maybe.
Anyway, I feel like the newest Exorcist will get posted about in this thread soon enough.
‘The worst film ever made’? Why Exorcist II: The Heretic is truly the sequel from hell
How a director who hated the original, a befuddled Richard Burton and demonic locusts made a film so bad it had audiences’ heads spinning
www.telegraph.co.uk
Fun fact: Martin Scorsese liked this more than the original.
Also it’s kind of funny that William Friedkin made Sorcerer, which was an even bigger bomb than this although that was reappraised as a cult classic. That hasn’t happened for Exorcist II: The Heretic, except for Scorsese maybe.
Anyway, I feel like the newest Exorcist will get posted about in this thread soon enough.
Gary
Mind. Body. Light. Sound.
“Exorcist II” has a cult following, just not one as vocal or deserved as “Sorcerer”. I think the best way to describe it is “a failure, but one that’s at least ambitious”.Since we don’t have a Bad Movies 1977 thread
‘The worst film ever made’? Why Exorcist II: The Heretic is truly the sequel from hell
How a director who hated the original, a befuddled Richard Burton and demonic locusts made a film so bad it had audiences’ heads spinning
Fun fact: Martin Scorsese liked this more than the original.
Also it’s kind of funny that William Friedkin made Sorcerer, which was an even bigger bomb than this although that was reappraised as a cult classic. That hasn’t happened for Exorcist II: The Heretic, except for Scorsese maybe.
Anyway, I feel like the newest Exorcist will get posted about in this thread soon enough.
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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I was genuinely surprised to find out it was a moderate box office hit ($30 million on a $14 million budget. Which would be $151 million adjusted for inflation). I just assumed it was a massive flop given its “worst movie ever” reputation.
Gary
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It’s not good, but in the field of bad horror sequels it doesn’t come close to the lows of say, “Halloween 5” or those DTV “Hellraiser” sequels without Doug Bradley (and only one of the sequels with him is actually good)
Gary
Mind. Body. Light. Sound.
Yep and this is only the first of the trilogy. Can someone please make David Gordon Green stop making horror films? He wants to do Friday The 13th next. Could you imagine how bad his version of Suspiria would've been like?
It still will probably open well. Horror seems to be critic proof as Insidious: The Red Door and The Nun II showed. But, I imagine this drops lock a rock in it's second week and gets demolished by Swift. And then Five Nights At Freddy's will finish it off.
It still will probably open well. Horror seems to be critic proof as Insidious: The Red Door and The Nun II showed. But, I imagine this drops lock a rock in it's second week and gets demolished by Swift. And then Five Nights At Freddy's will finish it off.
Cackling Co Pilot Kamala
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David Gordon Green seems dead set on having the weirdest filmography ever. From lowkey indie dramas to stoner comedies back to low budget dramas (except with movie stars now) to big budget docudramas to ruining iconic horror franchises.
Gary
Mind. Body. Light. Sound.
The thing about the first “Exorcist” is that everything about it is a perfect example as to why not everything needs to be a franchise-it works on its own, doesn’t need a sequel (audiences apparently laughed when the trailer for the sequel dropped), and is ultimately a story that works on its own. Also, one of the reasons “Exorcist III” works is that it goes out of its way for the most part to not feel a sequel. Outside of the studio mandated reshoots, it feels like it’s own movie (and was meant to be an adaptation of Blatty’s novel “Legion”), and it’s all the better for it.