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Sad day for baseball.
 

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We all remember the Expos relocating and IMO, they never seemed nearly as lame duck as the A’s do now. It’s sad.

San Francisco Giants sold them down the river by blocking a move to San Jose. Things would have been a lot different if MLB let the Giants move to the geezer dome in St. Pete in the early ‘90s.
 

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The Giants came within an eyelash of moving to Toronto before the '76 season. That was probably closer to completition than the A's to Las Vegas is today.

The Expos were essentially lame duck for awhile but MLB had a knack for keeping the carrot dangling. And usually when you have a lame duck team you want to limit that time. Three years?
 

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A lot of Las Vegas politicians and residents (Las Vegans!?) are balking at the amount of public money Fisher is asking for the proposed A’s stadium.

The A’s are going to be playing at a mostly empty Oakland Coliseum forever, huh?
 

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Starting to think that maybe that the Red Sox aren’t that bad. They won two series in a row against division leaders. And getting swept at home by the Pirates looks less bad now we know that the Pirates are the best team in the National League*. And all of this without Adam Duvall or Trevor Story. Maybe they can make a run to the Wild Card bah gawd.


*As of April 24th
 

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I haven't seen much of the Pirates but they're an interesting team. Several sophomores putting together big improvements. Mitch Keller putting everything together. The Oneil Cruz injury hurt but it has given some young players an opportunity and it should force the Pirates to move Cruz to the outfield when he returns.

The LA Angels are a .500 team but lost their rookie catcher Logan O'Hoppe for the season. Of note is the performance of their infielders. The Angels' infielders are hitting .213/.293/.273 for the season with 3 HRs and 33 RBIs in 358 plate appearances.
 

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That seems to be the M.O., we've seen it from the Rays too. Announce a site you want. Maybe unveil a stadium. Then go to the government with hat in hand so when the government balks, it's their fault the stadium did not get built. The author is of course correct that most of the necessary infrastructure for a deal exists. There's several ways for this deal to fall through, the most obvious one being that $500 million is a hell of a lot for a city/state to cough up.

Love this from the article Kamala posted...

Though deMause put it this way about the A’s and Aviators sharing the same market, “It’s slightly baffling that Fisher and Kaval say the Aviators can coexist with the A’s in Las Vegas long-term. Sure, other MLB teams have minor-league affiliates in the same or neighboring cities, but Las Vegas is a lot smaller than most of them — not to mention that if Nevadans want to go see minor-league baseball, they’ll just be able to watch the A’s.”
 

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I’m kind of surprised that idea of moving Aviators to Oakland hasn’t been floated since as mentioned the A’s basically are a Triple A team.

I know it probably sounds condescending to A’s diehards but isn’t having some baseball better than having no baseball? Plus I assume it’s way cheaper and easier to get a Triple A stadium built than an MLB stadium built.
 

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Genuinely kind of surprised the White Sox have never given out a $100 million contract. Never associated them as a thrifty team. At least not on the level of the A’s, Royals, and Pirates.
Kind of surprised a Frank Thomas, Paul Konerko, or Jim Thome never got a $100 Million deal from the White Sox.

Thomas' biggest contract per Spotrac was 7 Years for $64.4 Million(!) from 1999-2004. Konerko had a 5 year, $60 Million deal from 2006-2010.
 

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Jerry Reinsdorf is notoriously cheap with both of his teams. It is more noticeable with the Bulls, but I see a lot of White Sox fans complaining about his unwillingness to sign big contracts. It's a little more surprising with the White Sox because he has gone on record as saying "Basketball is a sport, but Baseball is a religion", so you'd imagine he'd actually spend on the team in the sport he likes, but he doesn't.

As a Bulls fan, it kind of saddens me that his cheapness isn't more widely known. He's absolutely terrified of the luxury tax and has pretty much said he'll never go into it.
 
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I’m kind of surprised that idea of moving Aviators to Oakland hasn’t been floated since as mentioned the A’s basically are a Triple A team.

I know it probably sounds condescending to A’s diehards but isn’t having some baseball better than having no baseball? Plus I assume it’s way cheaper and easier to get a Triple A stadium built than an MLB stadium built.
Thought about this. It took Brooklyn decades to get a minor league team. I don’t think Washington had one after the Senators left. Montreal doesn’t have a team at any level. Cities that got back in the game, Kansas City and Milwaukee, got major league teams. I think either cities feel like they’re giving up on their major league dreams, or the previous bad owners salted the earth.
 

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Modern interesting sports fact I saw on Reddit (sorry CWM): Every team in the AL East is .500 or above. The rest of MLB combined is 31 games under .500.
 

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The new schedule must figure into that. It'll be interesting to see how the dust settles as the season goes on as teams have played wildly different schedules so far.

It's hard to draw solid conclusions based on 25 games or so, especially with individual performances. The Rays are 20-5. Eighteen teams (since 1901) have started that well. Eight of them went on to win the World Series. Six others made the playoffs. I feel confident three would have made the playoffs in their current format. That left the 1912 Cincinnati Reds. They started 20-5, peaked at 22-6. They finished 75-78. A few of their players hit out of their minds the first few weeks of the season. After mid-May they played roughly at their established level that decade. Total fluke.
 

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Drew Maggi, the feel good story of the season so far (called up by Pittsburgh after being in the minors since 2010 outside of a phantom run with the Twins in 2019) is the starting 3rd baseman for the Pirates today. Love to see it!
 

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Having a good time looking at his minor league teams and seeing some of the prospects he played with. Jose Tabata, Jameson Taillon, Brock Holt, Gerrit Cole, Gregory Polanco, Stolmy Pimenthal, Keon Broxton. Guys he played with are retired, in Japan, in Mexico. And Maggi's in the majors.
 
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