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I'm glad i"m not the only that noticed that about the rock burying people. He's not HHH obviously but one of the problems I"ve always had with his promos was that they just seemed like high school putdowns that don't really get a story over. So many guys had their momentum halted because of him, and frankly even at his peak a lot of those insult promos weren't good imo.
I think Foley talked about that in his first book, how he prided himself on cutting elaborate and cerebral promos and how those kinds were seen as the cream of the crop (name-dropping Jake Roberts, IIRC), but then the Attitude era made it all about catchphrases even if the promo itself served no purpose.

OSW Review just bashed on the Wolfpac for their catchphrase-only "promo" on the Nitro debut of Warrior, to circle back around.
 

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Rock was really good when he wasn't just being a soundboard. Him completely destroying Booker beyond repair is probably a bigger piece of the invasion falling apart than we'd think. To me at the time Booker went from a legit main eventer to a total joke in a matter of minutes. I watched the first one back not long ago and Booker had an aura about him, like a real champion, that just got shattered by Rock calling him the champion sucker and shit like that. I never saw Booker the same way again after all that. I'm the one guy who was bitter about the Hurricane shit happening at all because Hurricane got more of a rub than Booker ever did for a joke.

Anyhow, so I went and watched some of Daffney's stuff for the first time in forever. Never paid real attention to how legit good she was and how she was a serious highlight to so many of those shows. She had the energy of ten people. It's just crazy that she was with David Flair and Crowbar of all people. Also reminded me how much I hate Crowbar.
 

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That legit sounds like a half-truth before they saw the money train. Hogan conquering the invaders with his bros at War Games, showing Hall/Nash/Disappointing third man/probably Savage or Giant where the big boys play.
 

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Bobby Walker and Robbie Walker are two different people. I never saw Robbie so I wouldn’t have known this if Bix hadn’t mentioned it on his podcast.
 

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The intensity was too much. He was getting over how he was unstoppable.
 

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He was another one of those guys I expected to watch and think was better than he gets credit for, just to let me down. Although that said 3 Count is one of the best gimmicks of the era and I gotta give him some credit.
 

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If I remember correctly I think they rushed him through the Power Plant because of his look.
 

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I remember the WCW stans that were left in '99 wanting the company to get behind him because he had kind of a cool, unique look for 1999 wrestling standards (problematic by today's standards. #Apprporiation #KancelKaragias). Once he got pushed and started wrestling matches that were more than C or D show squashes, I think everyone quickly realized how little there was there.

I do think he was good in Three Count and probably had enough natural douche chills to have a similar career to what Shannon Moore had but I also think he had ego issues. Was he the one who tried to fight Goldberg backstage in the Fall of '00 because absentmindedly scratched his balls before shaking his hand or was that Shane Helms?
 

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That was Evan. And Goldberg fucked him up.

Helms fucked Bagwell up backstage early on in the InVasion, though. He also has a reputation for being a surprisingly tough bastard.
 

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Well, Helms did smash Buff in the head with a frozen water bottle so it wasn't like Orndorff beating up Vader level upset but no one can say that Buff didn't deserve it.
 

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I'd never heard that Goldberg-Karagias thing and had to look it up. Bill Goldberg beat him up for not shaking his hand straight off his balls. Sure seems like that's more Goldberg being a horrible person than it somehow being the fault of the less famous guy.
 

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Goldberg actually apologized to Karagious afterwards and admitted he was wrong. ICP actually have a funny recount of the situation in their YouShoot.
 
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I tried to watch ICP's version but couldn't find it. I hope they mocked Goldberg for it.
 

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I'd never heard that Goldberg-Karagias thing and had to look it up. Bill Goldberg beat him up for not shaking his hand straight off his balls. Sure seems like that's more Goldberg being a horrible person than it somehow being the fault of the less famous guy.
No. It's Karagias. Just look at him.
 

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I think it was supposed to be Orndorff dodging him because he saw him in the mirror.
 
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