Michael Jackson Passes Away

[Youth N Asia]

Joe doesn't seem the least bit bothered by this. He probably finds a way to cash in on this soon.

 

[atticus Chaos]

Anyone else want to punch Joe Jackson in the face?

Michael Jackson Father: Joe Jackson 2009 BET Awards Interview - 06-28-09

"And?"

 

[still fly]

In a train wreck sort of way, I'm actually looking forward to next couple weeks of Jackson news. I'm interested in the sordid details.

 

[Perfxion]

I will not say, or even believe LP would be the next Beatles. hell no, they are just the biggest act of this generation. Which speaks volumes on the shitty nature of the top acts of this generation. There would never be another mega-artist and/or group. Their is nobody musically capturing the world. Its so fragmented that the only choices go by record sales or tabloids. Mariah/Britney/LP are the big ones. That doesn't mean they are going to get billions of people to do worldwide celebrations upon their deaths. Just that they are popular.

Mariah would be my personal choice as the greatest period; but her doing "black music" will always taint her from being a mega-artist, not just a really fucking good singer who moves units.

 

[Molotov The Bear]

No rapper will ever be the voice of a generation. In spite of the genre's long-running popularity, it's still too much of an alienating music to ever give birth to one artist that can make a lasting cultural impact.

I was originally going to take issue with this, but the more I think about it the more on-point it seems. Rap's plenty popular, yeah, but there's also tons of people out there who don't even view it as a legitimate art form. I mean, it's been around for 30+ years and it's still seen as little more than a silly novelty thing by large swaths of the population (cf. all this stupid bullshit). I see no reason to think that this is going to change anytime soon, either.

Maybe if today's generation of 'rappers' didn't look and act like retarded novelty acts, people wouldn't treat them as such.

 

[BUTT]

It's this line of thinking which leads to white guys non-ironically using terms such as "Weezy," "Yeezy," and "Hov" in rap threads.

Let it go, man.

Of course this isn't limited to rap. People still love to call Paul McCartney "Macca" and I don't like that because it reminds me of the British press, and I hate the British press. Plus it brings back memories of George "Macaca" Allen and those national wounds just haven't healed yet.

 

[Gary]

You know, I've always thought that part of the reason MJ's later records didn't sell nearly as much as his earlier stuff (not that he ever could match the success of Thriller, but his Invincible album "only" sold 10-mil worldwide) was because his music evolved into more of a contemporary R&B style with some hip-hop thrown in there. Even his 90's stuff seems to be overlooked to a certain extent. Obviously, the record label disputes, failed marriages, the child molestation accusations and charges, and MJ's eccentric behavior in general played a big role as well, but I think the type of music he was doing just didn't appeal to all walks of life like it used to.

You know, I once called the second disc of HIStory his worst album, but it had my favorite 90's song of his in "Scream." I guess Invincible takes the award for his worst album.

 

[still fly]

I think the hate for HIStory is because of it's harder edge. Compared to his previous work, I can see why it's so disliked. I gave it a couple listens over the weekend and I really appreciated it. It's probably his most personal album and it deals with some heavy things like the child molestation issues, the Santa Barbara DA, his inability to come to terms with his celebrity, and his dislike of the media. It tripped me out when I younger to hear Michael Jackson curse. I really liked This Time Around mostly because of the Biggie verse.

 

[KOAB]

Linkin Park are the voice of this generation, guys... I mean they went from brooding, "SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!" chants and are now realizing the world is much more bigger than their pre-teen middle class suburban crisis and are now tackling politics!

10 years from now... we'll be speaking about Mike Shinoda and that Chester dude as if they were Lennon and McCartney.

 

[BruiserBrody]

 

[bigolsmitty]

I've reconsidered. Sorry, R Kelly...

 

[Twisted Intestine]

Linkin Park, really? I must be more out of touch with the main stream than I thought because the only Linkin Park song I ever remember hearing is "CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIN!" I would have thought Green Day were a much bigger band in light of the success of American Idiot.

 

[KOAB]

and they're attached to the hip with the greatest film series, Transformers

 

[Twisted Intestine]

Don't forget Godzilla 2000!

 

[Smues]

Re: Linkin Park

Linkin Park Parody

 

[KOAB]

Linkin Park - "New Divide"

NOT AT FUCKING ALL

 

[OG]

Since Thursday, Thriller has sold well over 100,000 albums. Theoretically, it has a shot of hitting the top 10 again, 25 years later. Has that ever happened before?

 

[Incandenza]

No, because of the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_charts#Top_Pop_Catalog_Albums

Billboard defines a catalog title as one that is more than two years old and that has fallen below position 100 on the Billboard 200.

 

[King Cucaracha]

No-one comes close fame-wise to Elvis, Beatles, Jackson. But surely this generation's biggest would be Eminem? You ask whatever amount of people on the street, randomly, and Eminem's name would be more recognisable than anyone else. Including Linkin Park. Hell, I'd put Britney Spears and maybe even Amy Winehouse over Linkin Park. Nobody really dominates it from a musical standpoint anymore, mainly because the culture's more obsessed with fame than it is music. You don't get the majority of this generation caught up with one person's music Elvis/Beatles/Jackson. But the majority of this generation know of Britney and Winehouse and their fame and troubles and whatever. Could the majority pick Linkin Park Guy #2 out of a line-up? I dunno.

 

[Perfxion]

The Charts might not say it, but Michael Jackson might up being the top selling artist tomorrow on the billboard charts. He will not be on the main chart however, with over 300K sells on three albums, he stands to outsell the B.E.P.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/michael-jackson-rocks-billboard-charts-1003988912.storyhttp://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/michael-jackson-rocks-billboard-charts-1003988912.story

 

[DMann1979]

I think what lead to the creation of the pop catalog chart was Dark Side of the Moon being on the Billboard 200 for 14 FUCKING YEARS!!

 

[Byron The Bulb]

No-one comes close fame-wise to Elvis, Beatles, Jackson. But surely this generation's biggest would be Eminem? You ask whatever amount of people on the street, randomly, and Eminem's name would be more recognisable than anyone else.

And if you followed that up by asking them to name one Eminem song I bet you'd get a whole lot of blank stares.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

That just brings to mind my dad buying 8 Mile on DVD from Columbia House to "see what was the big deal about this Eminem guy".

 

[NYU]

No-one comes close fame-wise to Elvis, Beatles, Jackson. But surely this generation's biggest would be Eminem? You ask whatever amount of people on the street, randomly, and Eminem's name would be more recognisable than anyone else.

And if you followed that up by asking them to name one Eminem song I bet you'd get a whole lot of blank stares.

Well, when The Real Slim Shady came out in 2000, the video pretty much caught the U.S. by storm at the time. So I'd say if people could name one Eminem song out of all of them, it would be that one. But it's not just all about whether or not people know an artist's songs to determine their fame. I think that criteria, in fact, comes secondary to just how well they've been marketed as a household name when it comes to publicity on television, on the radio, on the internet, and in newspapers and magazines. With that being said, I would think Eminem, Madonna, and Britney Spears would create the biggest splashes if they were die at this point because it's not about their music -- it's about how marketable they've been over the years and how prevalent they've been in the media for the past decade (in Madonna's case, we're talking nearly 30 years. Yes, she's not as popular with the younger crowd as Britney or Eminem is, but I have a feeling teens today are still knowledgeable of her bigger hits like Like A Virgin). The individual members of bands like Linkin Park and Green Day just aren't popular enough themselves to have a dramatic impact like this, and there are many people over the age of 30 who simply would not care if Jay-Z or R-Kelly kicked the bucket.

 

[Mik]

I'm not a huge Eminem expert, but I'd have to think that "Lose Yourself" would be his biggest hit.

It did win an Oscar.

 

[bps21]

Yeah but everyone knew Stan because of the Elton John grammy gay bashing controversy plus Dido had a huge hit at the same time which made the song known to people outside of the usual bubble.

Steely Dan won the Grammy that year by the way. Steely Dan. In 2001. Interestingly they had never won a grammy before that (at least I'm pretty sure)

 

[bigolsmitty]

I was joking about R. Kelly...

 

[bigolsmitty]

...but I'm deadly serious about T-Pain.

 

[Red Baron]

The only other iconic music figure left that I can think of that has an appeal to most people would be Garth Brooks.

 

[Smues]

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