Nintendo Chatter

[AnonymousBroccoli]

Going by the PS3 update page, their update is a little under 200MB. Xbox's is closer to 100MB, and given the efficiency of their game update process (they're typically under 10MB, in my experience), it might be less than that doing it from the console. I believe they also include system update files on many first-party game discs—I'm pretty sure Gran Turismo 5, and one of the Halo games did. I don't know if Nintendo does this. They don't seem to have a method to download updates outside of the console from initial glance at their (also currently slow) website.

I don't know why it's that big. From watching some Giant Bomb stuff, it seemed like some core functionality was not on the launch units out of the box, and that's silly. I can't recall anything other than Wii backwards compatibility, and some of the TVii stuff. Nintendo needs to cater to their audience a little better; broadly speaking, I don't think Wii owners are nearly as tech savvy as Xbox and PlayStation owners, and their update process is the least friendly to deal with.

 

[Sabre]

Well, the wii had updates included on disk but then there were no more than about 4 updates for the wii over its lifespan.

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

If anyone has some stocked-up Club Nintendo points, the Gold Nunchuk went back up as a rewards item today. Pretty sad they actually had to add a disclaimer that the Nunchuk is gold in color and is not made of precious metals.

 

[Smues]

Thanks for posting that. I had wanted one to match ny gold Wii mote but they were already sold out when I first heard about them. 900 points well spent.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Nymyzys, you gonna add your Nintendo Network ID to the gaming IDs thread for your WiiU?

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

Yea, soon as I actually get the online set up. I'm still in the dark ages on my system.

 

[treble]

Spent a chunk of my points on the 3DS game case a few weeks ago when that came back in stock and now I'm short for the gold nunchuk.

 

[Smues]

Besides wanting the nunchuk, I'm glad it came up also for the reason that I think a bunch of my points would expire at the end of the club year and there wasn't anything else I was interested in using them on.

 

[tekcop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNr6wQfNfK4

I feel like the last one just came out.

 

[claydude14]

The last games were Pokemon Black 2 and White 2, which were "sequels" to Black and White but really pretty much the same game with shit changed around, mostly story-wise. Pokemon X and Y is a full blown new generation of the series, in full 3D. I'm pumped. Simultaneous release is crazy. Dem Japs always got it at least 6 months before us.

 

[Sabre]

Pfft, the best game is still Pokemon Yellow. Or the GBA remakes of Red and Green.

 

[Damaramu]

So I decided I wasn't going to make my decision on which game to play tonight, but I did want to play something. So I decided to load up Skyward Sword and see where I left off.
Nintendo has finally done it. They've killed the Zelda series for me now. This is my favorite video game series ever and I just can't finish this game. It's way too long and tedious. Everything in the game feels like a complete chore to me.
The desert/mining facility may have been the worst, most depressing dungeon I've ever played.
And then I get through that turd and find out I have to revisit all the places I've already been!? I just got done talking to the water dragon who is sending me BACK THROUGH THE FIRST TEMPLE. Fuck this game. I just can't do it. I'm only on the 9th dungeon/area and according to a website I saw there's 18 of these. Fuck fuck fuck. I don't think so.
I hate that I have so much hatred for the Wii bubbling up, but seriously fuck this console and all it's shitty games. They ruined Mario for me too. I couldn't stand Mario Galaxy. It's hard enough to control things with a joystiq when you have to hold it and balance it in one hand (as opposed to the stability of holding a controller with two hands) but then you put me on tiny platforms repeatedly when I can't even get the character to run straight!? (same thing in zelda, can't run straight ever) It sucks. I played about 2 hours of Mario Galaxy and gave it to my brother.
Now I'm thinking of taking Skyward Sword and trading it in at Gamestop with my big pile I'm trading in. It's very sad to me, but man I just can't do it. I can't finish this game.
If I didn't watch Netflix on it I'd trade the damn Wii in too. I really just don't like this system, and it's kind of sad to me. I'm especially saddened over not finishing or even liking a Zelda game.

/rant over. It felt very good to just let that all out. Sorry everyone.

 

[Damaramu]

Are they still releasing new virtual console games on the Wii? Or has everything been moved to the Wii-U?
I've come to the conclusion that I hate the motion controls with such a fiery passion that my Wii is now only good for Netflix and virtual console games.

 

[treble]

Do you have a broken nunchuk, because I've never had a problem running straight in any Wii game. There are notches cut in the plastic to help you out there.

I thought Skyward Sword was a great game, but I'll be honest and admit I haven't finished it yet. I'm in the last dungeon and got frustrated with something and haven't really touched it in a year.

 

[vivisectvi]

http://www.google.ca/search?q=Are+they+still+releasing+new+virtual+console+games+on+the+Wii%3F+Or+has+everything+been+moved+to+the+Wii-U%3F&oq=Are+they+still+releasing+new+virtual+console+games+on+the+Wii%3F+Or+has+everything+been+moved+to+the+Wii-U%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Links 3, 4 & 5 may provide some info..

 

[DrVenkman PhD]

Technically only the Wii gets VC games. You need to have the Wii menu installed on the Wii U to access the VC store (the WiiU shop is more about demos and such with GameCube VC coming down the pipeline).

Checking Wikipedia, I see they added the NES version of Burger Time last month and they've been regularly updating the Neo Geo with fighters... aww, they de-listed SimCity last week. And the DKC games in November! Glad I got those when I did.

 

[Damaramu]

Do you have a broken nunchuk, because I've never had a problem running straight in any Wii game. There are notches cut in the plastic to help you out there.

I thought Skyward Sword was a great game, but I'll be honest and admit I haven't finished it yet. I'm in the last dungeon and got frustrated with something and haven't really touched it in a year.

No it's not broken. It's just not stable trying to move the joystiq with my thumb in one hand without the stability of my other hand holding the controller still. One of the problems is that I'm left handed and I'm VERY left dominant. I can't hardly do shit with my right hand. Well the nunchuck forces me to use my right hand to do something without he stability of holding a controller with two hands. Instead my right hand is over there holding one part of the controller trying to press buttons and move the joystiq. And since I'm so left dominant my right hand is very unsteady while doing this.

I think Skyward Sword would be a great game, if it had a regular controller. I had to draw a damn symbol on a door yesterday and it took me 10 minutes because I couldn't make a circle with the stupid motion controls. I've been anti-motion controls since the Wii came out and this game just intensified my hatred and was really the final straw.
Everything in the game just feels like a complete chore and takes twice as long for me to do with the motion controls. And it's just getting tedious. I met with the water dragon last night and she's sending me through a dungeon I already beat. Screw that. I didn't like the dungeon the first time.
I love the Zelda series so much, but I just can't do this. It's not fun at all because of the controls.

 

[Damaramu]

I have Fire Emblem on GC and the followup on Wii. I played the GC one on GC back when it first came out. I think they're both amazing games and so much fun. I'm thinking about playing them again, but I can't remember. Do I have to use the GC controller to play the GC one or can I use the classic controller? I don't really want to play with the wired controller since my couch is so far from the TV and I'd have to play the game in the floor if this is the case.

 

[vivisectvi]

Do you have a broken nunchuk, because I've never had a problem running straight in any Wii game. There are notches cut in the plastic to help you out there.

I thought Skyward Sword was a great game, but I'll be honest and admit I haven't finished it yet. I'm in the last dungeon and got frustrated with something and haven't really touched it in a year.

No it's not broken. It's just not stable trying to move the joystiq with my thumb in one hand without the stability of my other hand holding the controller still. One of the problems is that I'm left handed and I'm VERY left dominant. I can't hardly do shit with my right hand. Well the nunchuck forces me to use my right hand to do something without he stability of holding a controller with two hands. Instead my right hand is over there holding one part of the controller trying to press buttons and move the joystiq. And since I'm so left dominant my right hand is very unsteady while doing this.

Is it possible you're just not coordinated with that hand? I'm not trying to be a dick here, btw, but I'm right handed and have no issues with stability using my left hand for the nunchuck. You may just need to train that hand to get used to doing things on it's own.

 

[vivisectvi]

FWIW, the search I posted above leads to recently posted news stories about how Wii U is going to be getting its own VC soon and that the games will be playable on the tablet.

 

[BUTT]

You can't play GC games with the Classic Controller, but you can still get the wireless Gamecube controller for just $220.

 

[The Amazing Rando]

You can't play GC games with the Classic Controller, but you can still get the wireless Gamecube controller for just $220.

The grey one is only 160!

 

[Cartman]

Or just make it so you don't HAVE to use the shitty Wii controller. The Wii-motes are nice for certain games, but there definitely should be the option of using something more standard.

 

[treble]

There are games that I wish had a classic controller option. Skyward Sword is not one of them.

 

[Damaramu]

Do you have a broken nunchuk, because I've never had a problem running straight in any Wii game. There are notches cut in the plastic to help you out there.

I thought Skyward Sword was a great game, but I'll be honest and admit I haven't finished it yet. I'm in the last dungeon and got frustrated with something and haven't really touched it in a year.

No it's not broken. It's just not stable trying to move the joystiq with my thumb in one hand without the stability of my other hand holding the controller still. One of the problems is that I'm left handed and I'm VERY left dominant. I can't hardly do shit with my right hand. Well the nunchuck forces me to use my right hand to do something without he stability of holding a controller with two hands. Instead my right hand is over there holding one part of the controller trying to press buttons and move the joystiq. And since I'm so left dominant my right hand is very unsteady while doing this.

Is it possible you're just not coordinated with that hand? I'm not trying to be a dick here, btw, but I'm right handed and have no issues with stability using my left hand for the nunchuck. You may just need to train that hand to get used to doing things on it's own.

Well yes I am uncoordinated with that hand, that's what I said in my above post. I'm very left dominant and can't do shit with my right hand.

But Cartman is right, we should have had the option not to use Nintendo's shitty gimmick controller. Now they've made a new console with *shock* another damn gimmick instead of just playing awesome video games.

 

[Just Burny]

That's bullshit. An indy gamestore around my parts is still selling official wavebirds (though secondhand) for $30.

 

[tekcop]

I've only played a handful of game on the Wii and none of them made enough use of the motion controls for them to be anything more than an annoying distraction. I really didn't like having to shake the controller to make Mario spin in the Galaxy game and in NSMBW and I absolutely hated doing it to make Donkey Kong roll in Donkey Kong Country Returns. The only game I can that of where the motion controls really added to my enjoyment of the game was Mario Party.

 

[vivisectvi]

Actually the WiiU Tablet is pretty intuitive and much better than the Wiimote/Nunchuck combo. I actually wish I could use one of these with my PS3..

FWIW, my favourite use of the old Wii controllers was easily No More Heroes. That controller scheme was made for games like that.

Also, I'm moving these posts to the Nintendo thread.

 

[Smues]

Lots of WiiU games announced today. A new 3d Mario game and a new Mario Kart will be revealed at E3. There will also be info on the next smash brothers at E3. A new yoshi game from the guys that made Kirby Epic Yarn is being made. A new Zelda game is being worked on but it sounds like it's far off in the future. And this fall we get a WiiU HD remake of Wind Waker. I can't wait for that one.

Also WiiU virtual console was announced with NES and snes games that will be playable on the tablet. If you own the Wii virtual console version already you get a discount.

 

[DrVenkman PhD]

I thought for sure that end of that sentence would be "you DON'T get a discount". I was ready for it.