Sony Repartee v2

[oldskool]

Online play requires PS+, and it includes 1GB of cloud save storage, all the PS+ discounts as well as the auto-patching (among other benefits). Every gamer I can think of can find value in one of those four things.

 

[vivisectvi]

I think it's worth noting that if you don't want to connect your console online (or do not have internet access) then Sony is willing to send you a disc with the day-one patch on it. I think that's pretty cool of them, tbh.

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

The way I read it, it sounded like you have your day-one PS4 firmware update, and then the DVD/BD activation is another process. If you can't/don't want to connect the console to the internet, you can download the firmware file from PlayStation.com, put it on a USB drive, and update from that. (You can do this with PS3 as well. And 360, last I checked.) For Blu-ray (and DVD?) activation, you can call to request a disc via snail mail.

You would think some PS4 game discs might have the firmware update on it as well, but maybe they finished it too late for it to be pressed to discs.

 

[Conspiracy_Victim]

Picked up my copy of Killzone: Shadow Fall today. Guess I've got something to stare at for the next 2 weeks.

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

Is the case thicker like PS3, or thinner like Blu-ray? (Blu-rays are thin, right? I have considerably more HD DVDs, and those are thin.)

 

[Conspiracy_Victim]

The case is thicker, about as thick as a 360 game case actually. It's a bit shorter though, almost an inch shorter than a 360 case.

 

[jimmy no nose]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

Great big PS4 FAQ. Some highlights (lowlights?): No MP3 or audio CD playback. No DLNA support. No upgrading child PSN accounts to adult accounts. No changing your PSN user name. No Bluetooth headset support. No support for sharing via YouTube at launch. I might be reading it wrong, but it seems like the automated patch feature still requires PS+. There's probably more.

The MP3 part I really don't understand. I don't use it a ton, but I do like to use custom soundtracks in certain games where there is already music playing in the background. Probably going to annoy a lot of sports gamers who like to customize the whole stadium music experience as well. I know people who play MLB The Show and like to set their whole team's walk up music and all of the in game songs.

 

[vivisectvi]

The MP3 thing will probably change. Custom music (ie: WWE entrances) is a huge thing for a lot of people. They will probably patch it back in at a later date, or leave it locked at "Developers Discretion." Why? I have no idea.

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

For now, the way you get your custom soundtracks is via Sony's Music Unlimited service, at $5-10/month.

 

[vivisectvi]

That's for listening to in the background while playing the actual game (which, tbh, I've never used). Using custom tracks for an entrance in a WWE game is completely different and something that is going to create a lot of backlash with that very vocal community. There's no way they don't back-peddle on this and at least let 2K enable it for the next game.

 

[vivisectvi]

Apparently they've already changed the policy: http://couchjockeyz.com/mp3-support-dlna-and-more-features-to-follow-on-2nd-ps4-update/

MP3 Support, DLNA and more features to follow on 2nd PS4 update

Though there have been a few missteps on Sony’s behalf from the recent FAQ post riddled with mistakes of no MP3 support, No DLNA support, and a few other features that are not available at launch. We were able to speak to a Sony rep today about if any of these features could be implemented in the near future and much to our surprise we have received a “Yes“. The future update that is in process to be rolled out shortly after the PS4′s launch (November 15th) will include the following detailed features listed below:

Legacy headset support
Mp3 support for not only in-game but non gaming as well.
Suspend and resume play feature
DLNA support for media such as (streaming Mp3, Videos etc.)

All of these features are set to hit PS4′s consoles by late 2013- to early 2014. Which we hope Sony will deliver sooner upon. From what we know these features are being packed in the 2nd forth coming PS4 firmware update. Also these details were hinted today when Shuhei Yoshida made a post on twitter stating that he had a discussion with other PlayStation 4 development team members about received feedback.

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

Don't know if this has been discussed yet, but next gen games are going to fill our Hard Drives pretty quickly.

http://kotaku.com/next-gen-games-will-fill-our-new-consoles-hard-drives-1457593456

Call of Duty Ghosts requires a 49 GB install right off the bat.

 

[vivisectvi]

Yeah, I kind of expected it, but it's still crazy to see it on paper. Definitely switching out the 500GB for a 1TB on day one.

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

It's mentioned in the Kotaku article; on PS4, it seems to be more of a temporary caching situation. CoD: Ghosts might require 49GB of free space to play the game, but it doesn't necessarily place a 49GB blob of data on the drive, and take up that much space.

I don't know that specifics are available yet--how long the "cache" remains on there; how much will be a temporary cache, and how much will be a more permanent "install"; how automated the process is, or how much control they'll let users have over the data. The system may delete the cache every time you switch game discs. It may delete all cache/install data if you haven't played a game for a month. We don't really know yet.

I guess some PS3 games have gotten big at times (especially digital games), but if you're moving from (usually optional) 4-8GB Xbox 360 installs to 50GB, that's gonna be a bit of a shocker.

 

[vivisectvi]

Found the Vertical Stand for PS4 this weekend at Future Shop. It was $20, and I had some store credit from a few trade-ins, so I picked it up along with the Vita Vault case and a PSN card.

 

[Master Thrasher]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/mlb-14-the-show-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-spring-2014/

/Looks at comparison pictures

/Faints

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

Good lord, that's really unbelievable. The attention to detail is nuts.

 

[vivisectvi]

Sports games on this console are going to look sick. I saw some high res screens from the PS4 version of NBA 2K14 and was blown away. I don't even watch basketball and I'm considering buying this game just because of how amazing it looks.

FAKE EDIT: Here they are.. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703813

http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-1xexbu.jpg
http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-1smx80.jpg
http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-1m4zj7.jpg
http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-148zid.jpg
http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-1ndy5s.jpg
http://abload.de/img/nba-2k14_2013_10-25-1v8xtv.jpg

 

[Exslade ZX]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/mlb-14-the-show-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-spring-2014/

/Looks at comparison pictures

/Faints

It looks like they went purposely out of their way to make the PS3 version look extra horrible. I think GTAV makes me suspect, because they proved you can get nearly as high detail as those PS4 scoreboard pictures on the PS3. They just have obviously chosen not too. Probably for purpose of comparison.

 

[Master Thrasher]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/mlb-14-the-show-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-spring-2014/

/Looks at comparison pictures

/Faints

It looks like they went purposely out of their way to make the PS3 version look extra horrible. I think GTAV makes me suspect, because they proved you can get nearly as high detail as those PS4 scoreboard pictures on the PS3. They just have obviously chosen not too. Probably for purpose of comparison.

I could see that too. I'd like to see actual game footage but it looks so real.

 

[vivisectvi]

http://kotaku.com/heres-the-playstation-4-taken-apart-and-dissected-1460064343

 

[vivisectvi]

...and so it begins!

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

Its bee-you-tee-full!!!!!!

 

[oldskool]

Not off to a great start:

e: The rubber on the left stick is tearing off at the bottom for a controller whose console doesn't release for another week.

 

[DrVenkman PhD]

I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking at there (although upon enlarging the image it looks like there is something wrong with the left stick, but I thought it was lighting at first).

 

[vivisectvi]

Context as to how it got that way, plz.

 

[tekcop]

Much like me, Oldskool sometimes forgets that video game controllers are not chew toys.

 

[Haws Bah Gawd]

I know most people hate the Francis character but here is an unboxing of PS4.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzdPh3utcg&feature=c4-overview&list=UU4_bwov47DseacR1-ttTdOg

 

[vivisectvi]

Not off to a great start:

e: The rubber on the left stick is tearing off at the bottom for a controller whose console doesn't release for another week.

Still not sure what was done here.. but this may be your solution:

http://www.ebgames.ca/biogenik-ps4-controller-thumb-grips/317763?cid=soc_10004540

 

[AnonymousBroccoli]

http://us.playstation.com/support/systemupdates/ps4/index.htm

The PS4 1.50 firmware is available to download. You can put it on a USB stick now, and possibly avoid PSN server assault on launch day.

Edit: That old link may have been for when you swap the hard drive, and need to re-install the firmware. The new one is a smaller update file.