The Attitude Era Thread Vol 1

[strummer]

Stevie Ray was supposed to be in Bossman's spot in early 2002 but HHH talked Austin out of it (Austin had to give his blessing) saying Stevie would hurt him

 

[Fall of Epic]

It was actually Lance Storm in that match instead of Bossman. Trayler wasn't on the card at all unless he made an appearance in one of those goofy hardcore title segments.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Jesus that's right. My reputation as an Ruthless Aggression stan is permanently stained.

 

[Brocklock]

Stevie Ray was supposed to be in Bossman's spot in early 2002 but HHH talked Austin out of it (Austin had to give his blessing) saying Stevie would hurt him

Another reason Triple H is the worst. Stevie could've got a commentary gig out of it at least.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think Stevie Ray was also in contention to be the color commentary guy on Velocity but they went with Ernest Miller instead.

 

[Brocklock]

He'd be much better than Ernest Miller, Bill DeMott, or Steve Romero

I could see him and early 00's Josh Matthews (when he was somewhat tolerable) being fun together and having weirdly entertaining chemistry.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Steve Corino auditioned for a commentator role after ECW's demise. They didn't want him on camera due to all the scarring on his forehead from blading.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410558957521969154

This rules

 

[Tino Standard]

No Mercy '99 to Wrestlemania 17 is peak, just because a really great ladder match turned into a fucking awesome TLC match.

I was at that No Mercy, and that ladder match is probably the best match I have ever seen live.

Fun story about that show: I was in high school and went with a few buddies. We had seats in the nosebleeds, but one of my friends knew someone with a suite directly across from the hard cam. They snuck us (and apparently a LOT of other people) in during the undercard.

Anyway, sometime after the ladder match, there was a lull in the action and the crowd decided to ignore whatever match was happening in the ring and instead focus on another tradition of the Attitude Era: getting a hot girl in the stands to flash the crowd. After some convincing, she did it, and like a bunch of idiots, all of us in the suite piled over the railing to get a look.

Unfortunately, this caused a security guard in the section below us to look up at the commotion. As soon as I saw him doing a head count, I knew we were on borrowed time, and sure enough, we were back in the nosebleeds by the main event.

 

[Mickey Massuco]

King of the Ring '99 is complete Mr. ass as well. Sorry @The Art of Postin' . Nothing stands out on the non major PPVs after St. Valentine's Day Massacre either outside of, for some reason, Ken Shamrock and Steve Blackman fighting in a parking lot and the Six Pack Challenge main event at Unforgiven '99.

Oh and Owen Hart dying but that's something I don't wax nostalgic about.

I thought attitude era lasted till the invasion angle and in that case WMX7 obviously holds up. I guess we need to define some terms here

 

[Valeyard]

Feels like there should be a name for that period Austin was gone. I missed him a TON but by the time he got back I didn't think he'd fit in that landscape. The idea of Austin coming in right after the HHH/Angle/Steph thing was crazy.

 

[JN News]

Edge and his tortured soul gimmick is what put me on his bandwagon forever. Plus, Owen Hart & The British Bulldog were the two workhorses of the WWF in the Attitude Era.

 

[Sex Machine Gun]

Feels like there should be a name for that period Austin was gone. I missed him a TON but by the time he got back I didn't think he'd fit in that landscape. The idea of Austin coming in right after the HHH/Angle/Steph thing was crazy.

Yes, this. At the time I was pretty happy with the roster and 2000 was SO good. Then he had a decently cool Disturbed version of his song but, at that time, time compression was very real. Even in 2000, watching the Royal Rumble '98 tape I borrowed from a friend in high school, that period looked positively ancient and insane in comparison.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Corny talking about Too Cool on his latest pod gave me this fun experiment: Drop Attitude Era guys into the New Generation w/gimmick intact and see if they work or if they were part of the rising tides of Austin carrying everything into a "cool" vibe.

Too Cool in 1995 feels like a team that would work silly dance spots to dead crowds wondering if Techno Team 2000 is coming up soon.

Side bar: I was surprised a few weeks ago to see Too Cool only got 1 run with the straps. I would have guessed more just based on the ADD booking (granted Russo was gone by the time they were "over")

 

[Valeyard]

Too Cool would've been the bigger version of PG-13 thus getting them a full time gig.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I'm not sure if Too Cool would've hit that niche in 1995 like they did in 2000, though. "White boys into rap" looked and acted VERY different in those two years.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Brian Christopher and Scott Taylor were (even at that point in '95-'96) solid enough workers that I think Too Cool would've worked in New Generation Era but slightly less well than they did in the Attitude Era. They never would've gotten a cup of coffee with the tag team titles. I think they basically would've been the defacto Bushwhackers replacement. A fun team to go over in opening matches.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Brian Christopher and Scott Taylor were (even at that point in '95-'96) solid enough workers that I think Too Cool would've worked in New Generation Era but slightly less well than they did in the Attitude Era. They never would've gotten a cup of coffee with the tag team titles. I think they basically would've been the defacto Bushwhackers replacement. A fun team to go over in opening matches.

Probably be accused of being soft versions of Public Enemy.

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Val Venis was a top guy in Mexico with a Robot inspired gimmick. Plop that into the WWF and get a jacked up joke more than likely.

The Godwins and Jarrett as Southern Justice probably do much better than as a singing goof and pig farmers.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Maybe Jarrett but I don't see Godwinns doing better as Southern Justice in New Generation era. The goofy pig farmers fit cartoony '96 WWF better. If they were serious bruising heels, I don't see them doing much better than Jacob & Eli Blu (or Shanghai Pierce and Tex Slazenger in '93-'94 WCW).

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Southern Justice was wasted on the Godwinns.

 

[Hawk 34]

Brian Christopher and Scott Taylor were (even at that point in '95-'96) solid enough workers that I think Too Cool would've worked in New Generation Era but slightly less well than they did in the Attitude Era. They never would've gotten a cup of coffee with the tag team titles. I think they basically would've been the defacto Bushwhackers replacement. A fun team to go over in opening matches.

TOO MUCH would have been perfectly placed in the New Generation era. Gay panic heels against the likes of the pig fuckers and the rodeo boys? Cmon man.

 

[Brocklock]

Men On A Mission would squash them on the way to Summerslam 95 to build up Mabel as the King of Hip Hop

 

[Valeyard]

I just like imagining them getting PG-13's spot in the Nation.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I wish we had gotten some interaction with Brian Christopher and Ahmed Johnson.

Comparing them to PG-13 makes me wonder about a sliding doors scenario where Too Cool jumps to WCW in '99-'00. They probably would've been multiple time tag team champions. But I mean, being the 5th or 6th most important tag team in '00 WWF is probably better than being multiple time tag team champions in '00 WCW.

 

[Valeyard]

Brian Christopher was such a WCW guy, too. He and Alex Wright would've had stupid chemistry as a team.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Think of how much better '00 WCW would have been if Too Much were Double J's lackeys instead of the Harris Boys.

Well not a lot but it'd have been somewhat better!

 

[Valeyard]

Actually I'll double down and say Brian could've been a better Disco than Disco.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Another Sliding Doors scenario, Disco surely would've found some sort of interesting undercard gimmick if he were around in the Attitude Era.

 

[Valeyard]

His SEX gimmick would've been huge in 1998. Forced to be in charge of the Corporation while Vince is off somewhere, if only for the interaction with Mankind wanting to know where his dad was.

 

[Brocklock]

If Brian Christopher was taller, he probably would've been a massive star. He could work, but did seem to break down fairly quick. He was pretty great in USWA though. His dad totally aped his high pitched voice and weasel laugh too. It was weird when Jerry said he took the high pitch voiced from Curly on his Broken Skull Sessions. That was totally him doing Christopher's laugh and voice.