The Meltzer Thread

[tekcop]

Dave spending forever trying to debate if Orton is one of the greatest of all time because Edge said it in an kayfabe promo has got to be peak Dave.

 

[Master Thrasher]

Orton is like a 14 time world champ, that's like GOAT territory.

 

[alfdogg]

Saw this bumped and thought it was gonna be revealed that Big Dave has coronavirus

 

[Mickey Massuco]

'being called a mark is worse than getting the corona virus'

 

[Baby Shoes]

It has been confirmed the coronavirus is more impactful if you contract it in the Tokyo Dome.

 

[strummer]

Dave just said on twitter that he thinks Becky is an all around better performer than Trish and a bunch of people are losing it. That's like the least insane thing .Dave has said since the New Year. Pick your battles!

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Yeah that isn't controversial at all. I love Trish but Becky is clearly a better all-around performer than her. A huger number of women in the business are now.

 

[tekcop]

Can't believe I'm on Dave's side.

 

[Baby Shoes]

Yeah, Trish stood out in the era she was in but Becky is overall more well rounded. People gonna be people.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1240779386351226881

I almost deleted the podcast in the middle of this argument.

 

[Master Thrasher]

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1244419414113398784

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

As a worker I don't think Ultimo is. For his influence and as a trainer than he is for sure.

 

[strummer]

Yep I don't see how that is an outrageous comment by Dave. People are jumping on everything he says at this point

 

[tekcop]

I mentioned this in chat just the other day. But Ultimo's got like three absolute classics under his belt and the rest of his body of work is decidedly mediocre. He's basically El Samurai.

 

[909]

Prime Lex Luger is a better worker than Ultimo Dragon. Yeah, I went there.

 

[Fall of Epic]

Jack Evans is SHOOK

https://twitter.com/JackEvans711/status/1244421929542602753

 

[tekcop]

Gran Hamada debut: March 16, 1972
Ultimo Dragon debut: May 13, 1987

Come the fuck on, Jack.

That doesn't even take into account he luchadors like Mil Mascaras and Dos Caras who went to Japan and were stars and influenced the next generation of Japanese workers either.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

There is a difference between that and the specific style Jack is talking about though. A lot of these guys were specifically influenced by Ultimo and the Toryumon/Dragon Gate style. No one is claiming that lucha style didn't exist in japan or anything like that before Ultimo. But the lucharesu style that's been all over the indies since like 2001-03 is different.

 

[vivisectvi]

Okay but is Gran Naniwa HOF worthy, is the real question.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

The Crab Elbow is better than anything in current NJPW, so yes.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1248405701430398976

Meltz predicted ratings for AEW would fall due to building up future matches and airing Kenny Omega's comedy hour.

Meltz also revealed Jericho/Hardy at the Hardy Compound is not for sure happening, despite the challenge being televised. This was one of the moments where WWE would be harped on for 10 mins, but they let it go pretty fast despite agreeing they did not like the idea of pushing matches that are possibly not happening,

 

[tekcop]

Like, I think Vince is as much of a big, bad, evil capitalist as the next guy, but this is a weird way to spin standard corporate bankruptcy?

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1249764452355829761

 

[Hawk 34]

God imagine Meltzer being a real journalist and reporting on real news

“20,000+ dead from covid 19, to get out of going to work”

 

[Fall of Epic]

Cross-post with the Jim Cornette thread:

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1259257866864586754

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Weren't they on like HDnet or something during the Cornette era. Not that I think they'd have gotten anywhere close to a million or that Cornette would do any better with the book but they're two totally different companies in different situations.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

They also lost a shitton of their fanbase and only recouped some of it when the NJPW deal happened.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Not sure where else to post this since we don't have a catch all wrestling journalism (and I'm not sure if we need one) but 411Wrestling writer Larry Csonka died today. He reviewed pretty much every current wrestling show, from the huge PPVs to ROH house shows and TNA Xplosion. I read an interview with him very recently where he said he reviewed 40 hours a week or a similarly insane number. Really going to miss reading reviews. Just had a straight forward, no BS style.

What a sad day for wrestling today.

 

[strummer]

Holy shit that's terrible. I was a big fan of his over the years. I'm legit gutted.

RIP

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Sounds like it was pretty sudden. I think he was only in his early-mid 40s. He was reviewing stuff as recently as Saturday and his last tweet from yesterday was about feeling terrible all of a sudden.

https://twitter.com/LarryCsonka411/status/1262150239705858049

 

[Valeyard]

Hyatte is going to go any day now, too. That one's gonna hurt.