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I afraid it will sound like prom queen and my ears will bleed out before my head explodes.
 

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"Drop The World" ft. Eminem and "One Way Trip" ft. Kevin Rudolph with Travis Barker on drums are the only good tracks.
 

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Em murdered Wayne on his own shit. No suprise there, he always goes in when he's a feature on somebody else's track.

I dig the beat. And the chorus is awesome. Wayne's verses were wack. And he only spit like 16 bars between both of them.

If this was Em's song and he went hard on 3 verses with Wayne doing the same chorus, it would've been a great song.

"One Way Trip" isn't really a good song. But it's catchy as fuck, like that other song Wayne did with Kevin Rudolph. The beat is sick, with Travis Barker on drums. And Wayne's verses were the most lyrical on the album, but they still weren't that great.

The rest of the album went straight to the recycling bin. Shit was garbage and should've never been released. They kept pushing the album back, and weren't gonna release it, but I guess since Wayne's going to prison they're putting it out to capitalize on the publicity and keep his name out there while he's locked up.
 

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Hey instead of talking about washed up shock rappers and a shitty post-grunge album made by a codeine addict, let's discuss under-appreciated classic tracks.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

This is easily the best iteration of 'Bout It Bout It' (sorry Mia X). With Cam, the beat--surely the best thing to ever come out of No Limit Records--finally has a rapper worthy of its brilliance and he doesn't disappoint. His verses are so impeccable that not even Jim Jones can ruin the thing. In fact, this might be Jimmy's finest performance. And Master P is used perfectly, his voice multi-tracked to the point that it sounds like a force of nature and it doesn't even matter that he sucks as a rapper. The one-two punch of this and 'Built This City' on Diplomatic Immunity is Dipset's high water mark.
 

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~♥~JeN~♥~ said:
let's discuss under-appreciated classic tracks.

Rich Boy - Let's Get This Paper

Most slept on song of the decade, maybe. I still find it shocking that the dude who made 'Throw Some Ds' was capable of this. I mean, don't get me wrong, 'Throw Some Ds' is great stuff, but this is something else.
 

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Drake, Eminem, Lil Wayne & Travis Barker - Uncensored Grammys performance

This is the 'unedited' version, really the 'properly censored' version is more accurate. The live version muted damn near half the performance, sometimes for an entire chorus or verse.

Everybody killed it here. Travis Barker is great at remixing rap beats. He made Forever sound epic as hell here. My favorite parts are Drake dancing behind Wayne looking like a lightskinned Carlton Banks. Awesome. Eminem finally performing live with Wayne, after he practically begged him to for years. He marked out so hard he almost fell off the stage.

But the best part is during Drake's verse, he changes the line "Nigga, I'm about my business" to "I swear I'm 'bout my business" and TAYLOR FUCKING SWIFT is in the audience dancing and they cut to her right when Drake starts the line, she's singing along and says 'nigga' as soon as they cut to her.

Somewhere Kanye West is plotting his revenge. Blackballed, not allowed to perform with the other artists on a song he's on, and then Taylor Swift, the chick that he scurred to death and got into all that shit over, they cut to her during the song he isn't performing on right when she said 'nigga'. And it hasn't been mentioned anywhere.


That shit is hilarious to me. And sad.
 
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I'd like to take this time and say that yes that song is great (Drop the World) and if you don't think Eminem is a great (possibly greatest) rapper then there is no hope for you and you should give up listening to rap all together.
 

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I'm a big fan. He's up the with the greats. I don't personally consider him the absolute best. But then again, Rakim is considered the God MC. Everybody bows to Rakim, and he says Eminem is the GOAT, so that says alot.
 

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Jaxxxson Mayhem said:
I'd like to take this time and say that yes that song is great (Drop the World) and if you don't think Eminem is a great (possibly greatest) rapper then there is no hope for you and you should give up listening to rap all together.

I'm not going to criticise your opinion (though I probably should), but you should really stop making audacious statements like this about your favourite artists.
 

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FroGG_NeaL said:
I'm a big fan. He's up the with the greats. I don't personally consider him the absolute best. But then again, Rakim is considered the God MC. Everybody bows to Rakim, and he says Eminem is the GOAT, so that says alot.

I did not know that Rakim had such a high opinion of Em. Either way, I've found that most people think about Eminem this way, respected, but never at the top. On most people's Top 10 Of All Time list, Em will be anywhere between #3 and #7. I rarely ever see people flat-out saying that they think he's the GOAT, but will acknowledge that he's one of the best. Honestly, I probably wouldn't call him the best either, but I wouldn't fault someone who did.
 

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I would put Jay-Z over Eminem any day of the week. The big problem with calling Eminem the greatest is too many of his songs have to have some made up beef. Him and 50 get on my nerves with needing to spark a new beef with someone to get record sales.

Just drop an album, and if good, people will listen.
 
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Eminem is better than Jay-Z. If you actually listen to Eminem, you'd realize that statement about the beefs really isn't true. I don't know if you could determine who the best rapper is but if I had to pick someone just based on rapping, Eminem is probably the best, followed by Nas. With content and all that jazz, Eminem may lag a little behind people like Tupac, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Nas, etc. which would drop him off the top. Although there really aren't any "conscience" rappers at Eminem's level except for those mentioned.
 

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I'd probably say Jay-Z is my favorite rapper, but he seems to have had enough lapses in his career (although I did like BP3 more than most others) to knock him down a few notches. I definitely agree that Eminem is a great rapper, and I appreciate that he really brings it more often than not.

In regards to Taylor Swift/Kanye West, was anyone else cringing back when Gold Digger was hot, but you always had a whole bunch of white kids saying nigga when the chorus came around?
 

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MFer said:
I'd probably say Jay-Z is my favorite rapper, but he seems to have had enough lapses in his career (although I did like BP3 more than most others) to knock him down a few notches. I definitely agree that Eminem is a great rapper, and I appreciate that he really brings it more often than not.

I don't know how you can knock Jay-Z for having a "lapses in his career" and in the same breath turn around and praise Eminem. The last eight years of Marshall's career have been one long extended lapse. He's been dressing up the same uninteresting, tired ass bullshit in fancy multisyllabic rhyme schemes since The Eminem Show. I guess he's still managing to trick people into thinking he's relevant, though, so more power to him.
 

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While I would not say that Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time - he's top 10 for sure - I would say that he is my favorite rapper to listen to (with Jay being in a close second).
 

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~♥~JeN~♥~ said:
MFer said:
I'd probably say Jay-Z is my favorite rapper, but he seems to have had enough lapses in his career (although I did like BP3 more than most others) to knock him down a few notches. I definitely agree that Eminem is a great rapper, and I appreciate that he really brings it more often than not.

I don't know how you can knock Jay-Z for having a "lapses in his career" and in the same breath turn around and praise Eminem. The last eight years of Marshall's career have been one long extended lapse. He's been dressing up the same uninteresting, tired ass bullshit in fancy multisyllabic rhyme schemes since The Eminem Show. I guess he's still managing to trick people into thinking he's relevant, though, so more power to him.

Yeah, I guess you're right on that one. I was more referring to his work on various collaborations and such.
 
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~♥~JeN~♥~ said:
MFer said:
I'd probably say Jay-Z is my favorite rapper, but he seems to have had enough lapses in his career (although I did like BP3 more than most others) to knock him down a few notches. I definitely agree that Eminem is a great rapper, and I appreciate that he really brings it more often than not.

I don't know how you can knock Jay-Z for having a "lapses in his career" and in the same breath turn around and praise Eminem. The last eight years of Marshall's career have been one long extended lapse. He's been dressing up the same uninteresting, tired ass bullshit in fancy multisyllabic rhyme schemes since The Eminem Show. I guess he's still managing to trick people into thinking he's relevant, though, so more power to him.

You make it sound like his fancy multis are easy to write. No one outside of people like Rakim and Kool G Rap could touch him when it comes to that. And he has changed his flow since The Eminem Show. He doesn't rap the same way. For a guy who's been out as long as he's been out, to still come strong, unlike someone like Jay-Z, that's pretty impressive. There's only so much you could rap about, but he has changed it up.
 
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