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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
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RedJed
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Read that the IMAX version of the film will be an "extended cut" of the film.....I don't think they have said how much longer it will run, but they have already stated there is more to it. Certain scenes were filmed with IMAX cameras (ala Dark Knight) so they may be just including those scenes exclusively for the IMAX version, would be my guess.
IMAX around here is also doing a "VIP package" where you get a guaranteed reserved specific seat to any of the first two days of the film, some commemorative ticket, and Transformers promotional materials galore apparently (they aren't saying what the materials are exactly, unfortunately) for $25 a pop. They did something similar with Star Trek when it first came out in the IMAX as well.
IMAX around here is also doing a "VIP package" where you get a guaranteed reserved specific seat to any of the first two days of the film, some commemorative ticket, and Transformers promotional materials galore apparently (they aren't saying what the materials are exactly, unfortunately) for $25 a pop. They did something similar with Star Trek when it first came out in the IMAX as well.
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andrew8798 said:
This really doesn't get me excited at all. All it does is glorify everything that is wrong with the movie. I hope I'm not dragged to see this.
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CBright7831 said:
Oh my God that is horrendus.
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So I was disappointed to read this about Soundwave today:
So they basically waisted Frank Welker's time to reprise his role as Soundwave.
Soundwave has limited dialogue in the movie. He has yet to be seen in any of the trailers. He downloads into his satellite vehicle forms for the new Decepticons to use before they land on Earth. Soundwave does not leave his position orbiting Earth and never transforms into his robot mode. He does not die at the end of the movie leaving possibilites open for a more prominent role in the third film.
So they basically waisted Frank Welker's time to reprise his role as Soundwave.
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I picked up Season 1 on DVD yesterday. It's a fun set with a bonus disk featuring a PSA and a couple toy commercials (all of which look like they were ripped from a 25 year old VHS tape). It comes with an rather large Autobot insignia magnet and an episode guide book. The book even pokes fun at Kid Rhino's half-assing of the DVD release of the original series. There's a line at the back that mentions something about "there are now laser blasts where there are supposed to be laser blasts, and Starscream is actually Starscream".
Regarding that Wheelie clip. I enjoyed the humor of the first film, so I got a chuckle from Wheelie. The bio of his toy says he's a giant coward, which is at least evident in the girly scream he gives Makayla.
Regarding that Wheelie clip. I enjoyed the humor of the first film, so I got a chuckle from Wheelie. The bio of his toy says he's a giant coward, which is at least evident in the girly scream he gives Makayla.
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So ive just read the comic adaption of the movie.
Megatron gets revived, shouts at starscream, the fallen is revealed to be a prime that turned heel and wants the matrix of leadership to power some sort of sun eater.
Prime dies and is out of action till sam gets the matrix and all the cybertron shite he has in him gets transfered to it and revives prime.
Prime kills the fallen, the world is happy.
Prime dies and is out of action till sam gets the matrix and all the cybertron shite he has in him gets transfered to it and revives prime.
Prime kills the fallen, the world is happy.
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As a transformer nerd, i loved it.
So the comic is indeed spot on. The army guys and the autobots have formed an alliance to fight any existing decepticon force on earth, the president gets annoyed with tokyo gets destroyed due to a fight between prime and some random decepticon. Sam gets ready to fuck off to college and cue some humor as bumblebee gets annoyed and ZING sam finds a remaining part of the allspark and gets all its MOJO put into him.
The government also has a piece of the allspark which the decepticons are looking for, they get it and use it to bring megatron back to life, they destroy one of their own and rebuild tron slightly into a tank thing, he goes to have a row with starscream and we meet the fallen. Whos screen time = around 10mins.
Prime dies.
Sam featuring the autobot twins (who are trying so hard to be comic relief) bumblebee and deception wheelie (who got some good laughs in the cinema with his humping of megan fox) go to find Jetfire whom can decipher the language of the primes, aka the cybertronian shit that got imprinted in sam.
Cue them suddenly being in egypt, and we get an all out war between the autobots and decepticons over a machine that blows up suns to create energon. See in a dick move, the original primes destroyed suns for energon, but never suns that had lifeforms in its solar system, but one wanted to break this rule, hence he was the fallen, and only a prime can stop a fallen. Ah but to power the sun destroyer they need the matrix of leadership, which can also repower an autobot.
Sam finds the matrix and after some usless plot featuring the original primes ghosts, we repower the dead prime, he uses the dieing jetfire for UBER MODE and saves the day, dispatching the fallen in about 2mins.
Starcream is his cowardly best here and tells megs that cowards get to live anyother day and they bug out.
The end.
The government also has a piece of the allspark which the decepticons are looking for, they get it and use it to bring megatron back to life, they destroy one of their own and rebuild tron slightly into a tank thing, he goes to have a row with starscream and we meet the fallen. Whos screen time = around 10mins.
Prime dies.
Sam featuring the autobot twins (who are trying so hard to be comic relief) bumblebee and deception wheelie (who got some good laughs in the cinema with his humping of megan fox) go to find Jetfire whom can decipher the language of the primes, aka the cybertronian shit that got imprinted in sam.
Cue them suddenly being in egypt, and we get an all out war between the autobots and decepticons over a machine that blows up suns to create energon. See in a dick move, the original primes destroyed suns for energon, but never suns that had lifeforms in its solar system, but one wanted to break this rule, hence he was the fallen, and only a prime can stop a fallen. Ah but to power the sun destroyer they need the matrix of leadership, which can also repower an autobot.
Sam finds the matrix and after some usless plot featuring the original primes ghosts, we repower the dead prime, he uses the dieing jetfire for UBER MODE and saves the day, dispatching the fallen in about 2mins.
Starcream is his cowardly best here and tells megs that cowards get to live anyother day and they bug out.
The end.
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FUN FACT: Michael Bay gets 7% from every Transformer toy sold and made $75 million alone off of the first movie.
Gary
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Ebert damn near crucified it. May I note this is from a man who gave the previous one 3 stars.
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I'll trust my own personal viewing of the movie tonight rather than a critic.
As buildup, I'm watching both the 86 and the 07 Transformers movies.
As buildup, I'm watching both the 86 and the 07 Transformers movies.
Gary Floyd said:
[quote author=Roger Ebert]If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.[/quote]
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ChrisMWaters said:
Some very strong nods to 86 in the new flick.
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After seeing Transformers 2, I hope everyone is now realising what a good movie Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was.
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I just got back from the 12:01 showing(plus a trip through the Del Taco drive-thru).....
It was decent. I mean really if you liked the first one, then you should like this one, there was more action in this one, a ton more robots, of course it made the humans look pretty useless as far as trying to fight back, but that was expected. The plot was kinda eh, but I don't really care about that kind of thing in this kind of movie. I am sure the fact that I was there with a bunch of friends and in a rowdy crowd, helped the experience.
The stuff between Sam and whatever Megan Fox's name is, is pretty awful and ridiculous, but I am guessing it is there as a desperate attempt to get females to come to the movie, which I must say for a midnight showing of Transformers 2, I was shocked at how many chicks were in attendance, and not the "geeky but cute" types, I am talking chicks you would never think would be at a midnight showing, let alone a showing of Transformers 2 to begin with.
When the new Twilight trailer came on, there was dueling cheers/boos, but the boos outweighed the cheers, and I think the people cheering kind of felt embarrased at cheering for it, haha.
It was decent. I mean really if you liked the first one, then you should like this one, there was more action in this one, a ton more robots, of course it made the humans look pretty useless as far as trying to fight back, but that was expected. The plot was kinda eh, but I don't really care about that kind of thing in this kind of movie. I am sure the fact that I was there with a bunch of friends and in a rowdy crowd, helped the experience.
The stuff between Sam and whatever Megan Fox's name is, is pretty awful and ridiculous, but I am guessing it is there as a desperate attempt to get females to come to the movie, which I must say for a midnight showing of Transformers 2, I was shocked at how many chicks were in attendance, and not the "geeky but cute" types, I am talking chicks you would never think would be at a midnight showing, let alone a showing of Transformers 2 to begin with.
When the new Twilight trailer came on, there was dueling cheers/boos, but the boos outweighed the cheers, and I think the people cheering kind of felt embarrased at cheering for it, haha.
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I saw the 1220 showing last night and thought the movie was okay. I definitely had fun but I enjoyed the first movie more.
I thought Prime's death should have been a bit more dramatic but I think the fact that I was waiting for it the whole time killed it for me.
The twins got annoying real quick. I was hoping Devastator would eat them. :-(
The mom was also annoying. I felt the parents lost their quirky charm from the first one.
And I felt the most ridiculous/annoying person was Sam's roomie whose name I cannot remember.
The hot girl/medusa transformer was hot as hell.
The Audi R8 died right away. :-( Was that symbolizing showing how American cars are better than foreign cars?
Starscream was good as a bitch. Wheelie wasn't as bad as I thought. Prime was badass in the beginning.
Prime combining with JetFire at the end had me laughing my ass off. Though we switched to a live action anime for a second.
A lot of fun but as I said I thought the first did a better job.
The twins got annoying real quick. I was hoping Devastator would eat them. :-(
The mom was also annoying. I felt the parents lost their quirky charm from the first one.
And I felt the most ridiculous/annoying person was Sam's roomie whose name I cannot remember.
The hot girl/medusa transformer was hot as hell.
The Audi R8 died right away. :-( Was that symbolizing showing how American cars are better than foreign cars?
Starscream was good as a bitch. Wheelie wasn't as bad as I thought. Prime was badass in the beginning.
Prime combining with JetFire at the end had me laughing my ass off. Though we switched to a live action anime for a second.
A lot of fun but as I said I thought the first did a better job.
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I had a lot of fun watching this today. The theater was PACKED for it being 3:40 on a Wednesday afternoon.
Some quick notes:
I give it 4.5 out of 5. Really fun, mindless action flick. Just don't go into it looking for an Oscar contender.
Some quick notes:
The interaction between Sam and his parents remained very entertaining. The actors involved here really have great chemistry.
Sam's Mom tripping on Hash Brownies = WIN
Megan Fox was always a pleasure to see.
Wheelie and The Twins were very entertaining, and kept the laughs coming.
Devastator has testicles. My main WTF moment of the film.
Someone needs to produce Sector 7 banana hammocks and make them available at retail.
The Fallen getting taken down by Omega Prime so quickly was kind of lame.
Prime was a fucking badass in this film; telling Megatron, Starscream, and Blackout "I'll take you all on", and holding his own for a respectable amount of time.
Megatron can inexplicably transform into a Tank now as well as a Cybertronian Jet?
Interesting way to work Shia Lebouf's legitimate hand injury into the storyline.
Michael Bay was right about killing Arcee.
Sam's Mom tripping on Hash Brownies = WIN
Megan Fox was always a pleasure to see.
Wheelie and The Twins were very entertaining, and kept the laughs coming.
Devastator has testicles. My main WTF moment of the film.
Someone needs to produce Sector 7 banana hammocks and make them available at retail.
The Fallen getting taken down by Omega Prime so quickly was kind of lame.
Prime was a fucking badass in this film; telling Megatron, Starscream, and Blackout "I'll take you all on", and holding his own for a respectable amount of time.
Megatron can inexplicably transform into a Tank now as well as a Cybertronian Jet?
Interesting way to work Shia Lebouf's legitimate hand injury into the storyline.
Michael Bay was right about killing Arcee.
I give it 4.5 out of 5. Really fun, mindless action flick. Just don't go into it looking for an Oscar contender.
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In summary:
Exposition, sex joke, introduction of comedy relief character, explosion, orchestra music with slow motion, Megan Fox posing, exposition, sex joke, introduction of new comedy relief character, explosion, orchestra music with slow motion, Megan Fox running in slow motion, introduction of comedy relief character, explosion, orchestra music with slow motion, Megan Fox posing, exposition, sex joke, introduction of new comedy relief character, explosion, orchestra music with slow motion, Megan Fox running in slow motion, several explosions at once, montage, the end.
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Haws Bah Gawd said:
During the Megatron rebuild, he was given parts of a decpticon which seemingly had a tank look
RedJed
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Went and saw it at a sold out IMAX last night and, well, it was quite the event, I will say that much.
They did a VIP deal where for $25 you get in ahead of the rest of the 600 plus rest of the people, so me and a friend basically got sweet dead center of the entire megaplex. They also gave out the worst "merchandise" ever - a cheap IMAX tote bag, a teaser comic adaptation of the first 15 or so minutes of the film (which I think I saw somewhere else like Kmart on a display for free) and a f'n bag of those Strawberry Peanut BUTTer M & Ms, which I guess is sponsored by the film or something. Basically the only advantage to the VIP was getting a good seat, and for that, I was satisfied.
The film itself plays much better in an IMAX setting, as the big action scenes were actually filmed with IMAX cameras, so when those occured, you got an extreme full frame, super high definition picture encompassing that entire enormous screen (versus basically a letterbox type format that the IMAX screen usually gives the hollywood films). Those IMAX filmed scenes they did were actually some of the most visually amazing stuff I've ever seen in a movie theater, words can't even describe it. The effects and actions scenes in this one were just jaw dropping great, made even better by the IMAX factor. For that alone, I highly suggest everyone who hasn't seen the movie yet (or wants to see it again) to go to an IMAX close to you if you have that option, as it's a huge step up here, more than any other film has been in IMAX to me.
Now, besides the incredible effects and action, the rest of the movie was actually pretty fucking horrible if you ask me. A solid half hour, if not more, could have been cut. There was far far far too many attempts at comedy in this film, way more than they did in the first, and ultimately, you could cut 75 percent of those comedic parts of this film and I think it would have played much better. It just really hurt the flow of it all when you would have this over the top action sequence, and then follow it with horribly lame attempts at comedy from particularly the parents. Dont get me wrong, there is a place for humor (as many other genres) in a popcorn movie like this, but when it's overdone and played out to ridiculous levels, it's not good.
One thing that also really got me was
There is a time and place for ideas like that, but it's not in a Transformers movie. It opens up a whole new can of worms that I don't care for.....if I want that shit, I'll watch the Terminator films again. Then again, I remember the Dinobots from way back when and I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the next film. Somehow, though, Dinobots I dont mind, while
is just stupid. But at least she didn't last long.
Overall, I really did still enjoy the flick, don't get me wrong, and even though of course there was plotholes all over the place, I did like the general story of the film, the effects and action scenes were some of the best stuff I've ever seen in cinema, and it definately delivered via the IMAX effect. But the comedy attempts went way over and above an amount that was needed for a film like this. It hurt the general flow of the movie.
They did a VIP deal where for $25 you get in ahead of the rest of the 600 plus rest of the people, so me and a friend basically got sweet dead center of the entire megaplex. They also gave out the worst "merchandise" ever - a cheap IMAX tote bag, a teaser comic adaptation of the first 15 or so minutes of the film (which I think I saw somewhere else like Kmart on a display for free) and a f'n bag of those Strawberry Peanut BUTTer M & Ms, which I guess is sponsored by the film or something. Basically the only advantage to the VIP was getting a good seat, and for that, I was satisfied.
The film itself plays much better in an IMAX setting, as the big action scenes were actually filmed with IMAX cameras, so when those occured, you got an extreme full frame, super high definition picture encompassing that entire enormous screen (versus basically a letterbox type format that the IMAX screen usually gives the hollywood films). Those IMAX filmed scenes they did were actually some of the most visually amazing stuff I've ever seen in a movie theater, words can't even describe it. The effects and actions scenes in this one were just jaw dropping great, made even better by the IMAX factor. For that alone, I highly suggest everyone who hasn't seen the movie yet (or wants to see it again) to go to an IMAX close to you if you have that option, as it's a huge step up here, more than any other film has been in IMAX to me.
Now, besides the incredible effects and action, the rest of the movie was actually pretty fucking horrible if you ask me. A solid half hour, if not more, could have been cut. There was far far far too many attempts at comedy in this film, way more than they did in the first, and ultimately, you could cut 75 percent of those comedic parts of this film and I think it would have played much better. It just really hurt the flow of it all when you would have this over the top action sequence, and then follow it with horribly lame attempts at comedy from particularly the parents. Dont get me wrong, there is a place for humor (as many other genres) in a popcorn movie like this, but when it's overdone and played out to ridiculous levels, it's not good.
One thing that also really got me was
the chick thats actually you know what.
a Decepticon disguised as a hot piece of ass
Overall, I really did still enjoy the flick, don't get me wrong, and even though of course there was plotholes all over the place, I did like the general story of the film, the effects and action scenes were some of the best stuff I've ever seen in cinema, and it definately delivered via the IMAX effect. But the comedy attempts went way over and above an amount that was needed for a film like this. It hurt the general flow of the movie.
According to boxofficemojo this made SIXTY million on Wednesday. Boo-urns.
Gary
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Just got back from it.
The Good
The Bad.
Oh where do I start...
I'll give it 2/10, and that's being generous, and it still managed to be better than "Terminator Salvation" and because I hear audiences at least liked it more than "Year One." That's not saying much though, and it's still a cinematic abortion best left avoided.
The Good
-The action scenes are great-even better than the first one's. The scene in the forest is the highlight
-More Opitimus Prime. Cullen is great as ever. Also, he has a nice cameo.
-Jetfire! He's the only character who had lines that made me laugh too.
-Megatron and Starscream.
-More Opitimus Prime. Cullen is great as ever. Also, he has a nice cameo.
-Jetfire! He's the only character who had lines that made me laugh too.
-Megatron and Starscream.
The Bad.
Oh where do I start...
-The comedy aspects that were annoying in the previous one (and I liked the previous one) are pushed to their obnoxious extremes. Devastator's wrecking ball testicles! Sam & Max's Parents! (more on them in a moment) Skids and Mudflap! (ditto) Racial stereotypes pushed to the nth degree! Dogs humping! Robots humping things! John Tutorro's ass! Please kill me.
-The parents. While they were kept to a minimum in the previous one, here they get more screen time, and it's terrible. The bit with the mom eating a pot brownie is atrocious.
-Skids and Mudflap. Now I don't mean to sound like some kind of holier than though moral avenger or what not, but I know a minstrel show when I see it. They
I'm amazed they didn't start talking about watermelon and fried chicken while singing mammy. A black woman a few seats away from me looked like she was about to cry when they showed up. Also, you have all these other Autobots and Decepticons that you know and love from the past, yet they get less screen time than these two.
-Also, there is once again more attention paid to the US Army than the Autobots in this one. We get it Mike, you love the armed forces! At times you wonder why it's called "Transformers"
-The Fallen. He's hyped as this unstoppable, almost Lovecraftian evil force, and he's defeated too soon and too easily. Also, there's not enough of him, and it's a perfectly good waste of Tony ("Candyman") Todd.
-Poor John Tutorro. I know he'll get paid a healthy sum for this, but I still felt bad for him. The man is one of my favorite living actors, and he deserves better than this.
-Don't give me that "Of course it's dumb! Just turn off your mind!" Here's the thing: There's a difference between dumb but fun and insultingly dumb, and this was the latter. Believe me, I tried turning my mind off for this, and eventually it became so bad I felt angry. Angry at the screen writers. Angry at the fact that they thought so much of this was funny when it was just terrible. Angry at Michael Bay for doing this whole thing. And most of all, angry at my self for paying to watch this.
-The whole thing mostly doesn't seem like it was done for the general movie going public. It basically feels like it was made to entertain one person-Michael Bay. This just feels like a love letter he did for himself. It's nothing but him stroking his ego and screaming "Are you entertained!?!?!!" for nearly two and a half hours.
-The parents. While they were kept to a minimum in the previous one, here they get more screen time, and it's terrible. The bit with the mom eating a pot brownie is atrocious.
-Skids and Mudflap. Now I don't mean to sound like some kind of holier than though moral avenger or what not, but I know a minstrel show when I see it. They
-Have gold teeth.
-Are illiterate
-Have big ears
-Speak ebonics
-Are dumb
-Have ape like movements
-Are illiterate
-Have big ears
-Speak ebonics
-Are dumb
-Have ape like movements
I'm amazed they didn't start talking about watermelon and fried chicken while singing mammy. A black woman a few seats away from me looked like she was about to cry when they showed up. Also, you have all these other Autobots and Decepticons that you know and love from the past, yet they get less screen time than these two.
-Also, there is once again more attention paid to the US Army than the Autobots in this one. We get it Mike, you love the armed forces! At times you wonder why it's called "Transformers"
-The Fallen. He's hyped as this unstoppable, almost Lovecraftian evil force, and he's defeated too soon and too easily. Also, there's not enough of him, and it's a perfectly good waste of Tony ("Candyman") Todd.
-Poor John Tutorro. I know he'll get paid a healthy sum for this, but I still felt bad for him. The man is one of my favorite living actors, and he deserves better than this.
-Don't give me that "Of course it's dumb! Just turn off your mind!" Here's the thing: There's a difference between dumb but fun and insultingly dumb, and this was the latter. Believe me, I tried turning my mind off for this, and eventually it became so bad I felt angry. Angry at the screen writers. Angry at the fact that they thought so much of this was funny when it was just terrible. Angry at Michael Bay for doing this whole thing. And most of all, angry at my self for paying to watch this.
-The whole thing mostly doesn't seem like it was done for the general movie going public. It basically feels like it was made to entertain one person-Michael Bay. This just feels like a love letter he did for himself. It's nothing but him stroking his ego and screaming "Are you entertained!?!?!!" for nearly two and a half hours.
I'll give it 2/10, and that's being generous, and it still managed to be better than "Terminator Salvation" and because I hear audiences at least liked it more than "Year One." That's not saying much though, and it's still a cinematic abortion best left avoided.
All the shit in your 'the bad' spoiler that was in the first movie was why I hated it. And seeing as how it looks like it's all back in this one there's no way in hell I'm going. Though how the 'comedy' and such can be worse than the first movie I don't know, because I thought it hit rock bottom in the first one.
And the parents are somehow worse? How can they be worse than the whole ARE YOU MASTERBAITING scene?
And the parents are somehow worse? How can they be worse than the whole ARE YOU MASTERBAITING scene?
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RedJed: Actually, for your one thing that got you,
There was a toyline based on the ideas of Transformers disguised as organics, called The Pretenders. So I'm guessing that Alice (that was her name) was the modern interpritation of that.
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ChrisMWaters said:
It still just irked me all the same.
And yes, the parents are many times more over the top and obnoxious (particularly the mom this time around) in this one. It's easily the worst part of the movie. Well either that or the random shit like the already mentioned stuff. You take your pick, it's all really forced and bad attempts at comedy.
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Dr. Zaius said:
Well, I'm sold.
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Saw it last night. It's proper shit. Like awful bad putrid shit. This film has a LOT of facepalm moments.
The Good:
-The action sequences with the robots. The human action sequences were pants, but the robot ones were good.
-Starscream.
The Bad:
Everything else.
The action sequences were good but were outweighed by all of the bullshit inbetween them. All of the "comedy" was terrible. I laughed once and that was when
. Other than that, not a single laugh from me.
EVERY character other than Optimus Prime, Megatron and Starscream were annoying as hell.
What the fuck was up with that chick he goes to college with? Seriously, what was the point of her? What purpose did she have?
Megatron lost a lot of points for being The Fallen's bitch.
Christ, this film was fucking terrible. It took everything that was bad about the first one and amplified it.
The Good:
-The action sequences with the robots. The human action sequences were pants, but the robot ones were good.
-Starscream.
The Bad:
Everything else.
The action sequences were good but were outweighed by all of the bullshit inbetween them. All of the "comedy" was terrible. I laughed once and that was when
they dropped Optimus Prime's dead body
EVERY character other than Optimus Prime, Megatron and Starscream were annoying as hell.
What the fuck was up with that chick he goes to college with? Seriously, what was the point of her? What purpose did she have?
Megatron lost a lot of points for being The Fallen's bitch.
Christ, this film was fucking terrible. It took everything that was bad about the first one and amplified it.