Vintage Independent Wrestling Thread: Discuss the Stars of Today Yesterday When They Were Stars of Tomorrow

[Valeyard]

If we're going by figures I'm 99% sure ROH outdrew TNA basically every time because TNA did so many shows without charging people during the first five years and even then they didn't run house shows terribly long. TNA no doubt trounced them with merch because of the Don West machine.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

ROH and Impact were neck and neck and I think ROH was ahead at times during the doldrums of TNA/Impact’s popularity in the mid 2010s.

When the Broken Hardys feuded with The Young Bucks, they showed up in ROH but Young Bucks didn’t show up in Impact (despite Matt Hardy constantly making jokes about them).

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

TNA are way too generous with lending their talent out and getting zero in return.

 

[Valeyard]

Omega killing Swann and then losing the title to Christian was really bad. TNA got no wins while TK cut bad promos on how shitty they were.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Epic promo from the women folk at the 9 min mark

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Brod brought up Jesse Hennig a little while back.

In retrospect, wearing his brother’s tights seemed to invite negative comparisons. Also he should have gotten a damn haircut. He looks like the Mr. Perfect you ordered on Wish.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Señor Prefect

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Also I thought his career was a lot earlier than it was. His Cagematch profile exists entirely during Mr. Perfect’s second retirement in the mid ‘90s. If he was anything close to passable, someone would have given him a shot at least mid card filler. WWF and WCW were loading up their rosters and I’m sure replacement level Mr. Perfect would have gotten a shot somewhere.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Funny/Sad the lack of reaction for Curt and the Ax. I know there was all of like 50 people there, but it seemed almost like they really did set up a ring in the middle of a bar patio and forgot to clear out the patrons and let in the fans.

 

[BruiserBrody]

ACW Maximum Detention (2000-09-30) - Results @ Wrestlingdata.com

ACW Maximum Detention (2000-09-30) - Results

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I would have been in high school yet, but apparently I could have seen George Steele's last match on record. (Per Wrestlingdata)

I went to plenty of ACW shows in the early 2000s. I was actually just talking to the promoter on FB last night about how they booked Honky Tonk in GB a couple years after this and yet I don't believe I went. Best guess I have is we went to the Dells or something that weekend. The shows used to run a few blocks from my buddies house.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Matt Taven stupidly did a dive on at a show that Animal did a guest manager spot on sometime in the early 2010s. I remember that was the first time I hated Matt Taven but once again, @Laz was probably there before me.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I literally signal the pushes of QT Marshall and Matt Taven as when ROH ceased to be relevant. Apparently, the general indie audience agreed with me.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/27725353930304241/

This motley crew went down the east coast working a bunch of military bases according to Beau James. As of now I can't find results. Google Fu is pretty much a nothingburger

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Damn. If we didn’t get a Jake Roberts Vs Christopher Daniels match out of that…Clash of the two wrestlers falsely rumored to be The Higher Power in the Summer of ‘99!

 

[BruiserBrody]

UWF Wrestling from Chalmette, Louisiana - Six Man Steel Cage Match featuring "Gentleman" Chris Adams, Brian Knobbs, and Don DiBiase vs. Matt E. Smalls (Rosie), The Sultan (Ekmo Fatu/Umaga), and Wild Samoan Sika...

SIKA was working in 1997?!!​

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

WXW C4 March Madness « Events Database « CAGEMATCH - The Internet Wrestling Database

Internet Wrestling Database

www.cagematch.net

Afa had a match in 2014 (and looks like he was semi active on the indies for a few years after his WWF managerial run ended in ‘94)

 

[Valeyard]

Even when they're old they still look more intimidating than their relatives.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Did Mr. Cardona film that New Rockers explode match though?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Shooter Tony Jones dead at 53 - Slam Wrestling

For 20 years Slam Wrestling has been the leader in sports entertainment, wrestling news.

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Sad. The Mike Modest/Tony Jones/Roland Alexander sequence is an underrated part of the movie. Also great story about Tony meeting his hero Carl Weathers at the end of the obituary.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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Idk how many underaged kids worked New England indies scene of the ‘00s until I was much older. If I had any semblance of athleticism, I could have worked a few matches and maybe been squashed by Rick Fuller, @Laz

RIP Kid Crazy. Long live the EWA!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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[Big Papa Paegan]

Damn it's weird to see Haitch with his real accent.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Johnathan Vargas walked so Tony Khan could run.

I guess we can be thankful he didn't hire Vince Russo to book this.

I feel I've talked of this in the semi recent past.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned how I have memory pegged this as taking place during the later Attitude Boom era and not 2009.

Why the hell did my local station air this in 2009?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://www.facebook.com/100078887772299/posts/431633496142906

Cc @Mental Lee ILL

 

[JN News]

Freddy's servin' Hard Times against the BBM. That child murderer's not supposed to be in the riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://www.facebook.com/100050319556669/posts/976068457413797

Jim Crockett and Paul Heyman running a promotion feels like it should have been more notable than a footnote in Paul Heyman taking over ECW.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

It would've been interesting to see how it went if it lasted longer, that's for sure. I don't think it would've lasted particularly long, because I see Crockett and Heyman butting heads far too often, but interesting for sure.

 

[Valeyard]

Those had the HD shows. I can't think of anything else about it.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Somehow it evolved into that NWA Texas promotion with Kevin Von Erich and Skandar Akbar as friends and Greg Valentine and a young Ahmed Johnson on top.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1365707437827850241