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Please don't start one. We probably could've gotten away without the Crockett thread tbh.
*Bionic elbow*
Oh i was just making an observation. I can't talk about how Ronnie Garvin should've been in the nWo now.
Garvin, upon turning heel in 1988 starts a rogue group to take down JCP. It only takes them 6 weeks however as the Turner sale goes through.
 

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Really I would be into Michael Hayes and the Garvins doing that.
 

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Mick’s pod is going down to just one new episode a month. JR’s on the shelf without new programming, and Bruce isn’t keeping any kind of consistency. Getting tougher to sell boner pills to the fans.
 

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Foley's should've been one a month as it is, maybe.
 

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Bischoff has been podcasting twice weekly. That seems more punishing than the other podcasters going part time.

I wonder if there is less talk about him whining about AEW on the flagship show though now that he has a second show. Probably not!
 

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I really thought Bischoff's whole gimmick was just doing a podcast for 83 weeks and stopping because otherwise, regardless of accomplishment, the name sucks.
 

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What topics does Mick have left to really discuss? Off the top of my head I can only think of his 2016/2017 GM run on Raw but he covered most of that in the Stephanie episode.
 

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It makes me afraid that Foley doesn’t have the mental capability to do a granular podcast about his career like Double J’s. I think the fact that he repeats so many damn stories lends credence to that theory.
 

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Where’s the WWWF Thread when you need it?
I listened to this and TBH I enjoyed it. Undercard guys have a different perspective. I was going to call O'Hannon the WWWF version of Dennis Stamp and sure enough, O'Hannon and Stamp held a tag team championship in Amarillo.
 

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Strong candidate for WTF pod of the year: Hannibal had one of his guys interview Kevin Sullivan about Slamboree 93. A show Sullivan didn't book or work on, for a promotion he wasn't working for. And to top it off, Kevin didn't watch the show to prep so it was 45 mins of generalities served up as answers.
 

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No disrespect to Marc Mero, but I don't see the need for a 2 hour solo podcast on him from Eric. They talked about him on a bunch of PPVs and Nitros.
"Chat me up Eric, why did you use Kimberly Page with Mero instead of Sable. Don't get me wrong...both women are all the way live!"
 

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The preview for the episode mostly talks about Eric talking about getting his head shaved and the latest AEW news.

How Marc Mero basically became in the pro wrestling world after he was thought of as a potential huge star at the dawn of Monday Night War could be a GREAT podcast but I doubt that the AFS dorks are the ones to do it.
 

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Cornette is absolutely correct when he says Mero's biggest problem was he was trained to be Johnny B. Badd more than he was anythng else. The knee injury happened a few years too late for him to find himself.
 

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It’s really too bad he didn’t find himself as a character in WWF until he was completely physically shot. The delusional ex boxer character could have been a hell of a manager in another era.
 

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Hasn’t JR been through enough lately without these wise acres making fun of his dearly departed baby boy?
 

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No disrespect to Marc Mero, but I don't see the need for a 2 hour solo podcast on him from Eric. They talked about him on a bunch of PPVs and Nitros.
"Chat me up Eric, why did you use Kimberly Page with Mero instead of Sable. Don't get me wrong...both women are all the way live!"

All things considered, Mero did fine. Not everybody was meant to be a main eventer and not everybody is supposed to have a 20 year career.

Mero came to the WWF just as they were losing Hall and Nash and Mero was pretty much built up to try and take the Ramon slot of constant IC challenger who can mix it up with the main eventers. The lack of talent around didn't really help, as feuding with HHH was not going to work out for Mero based on the Kliq ties. Winning the IC belt and giving a heartfelt speech on RAW wound up being his face high point instead of his kick off to the next level.
Even before the knee injury he was dicking around on PPV with Leif Cassidy and in limbo as Mick Foley didn't want to work a Mania program with him.
 

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I get there are sometimes press embargoes on interviews but Chris Van Vliet just posted an interview with Jay Lethal from July 2021. With how fast news progresses in pro wrestling, that seems almost as retro as the Dusty interview just posted! Jay hadn’t even joined AEW at that point.
 

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All things considered, Mero did fine. Not everybody was meant to be a main eventer and not everybody is supposed to have a 20 year career.

Mero came to the WWF just as they were losing Hall and Nash and Mero was pretty much built up to try and take the Ramon slot of constant IC challenger who can mix it up with the main eventers. The lack of talent around didn't really help, as feuding with HHH was not going to work out for Mero based on the Kliq ties. Winning the IC belt and giving a heartfelt speech on RAW wound up being his face high point instead of his kick off to the next level.
Even before the knee injury he was dicking around on PPV with Leif Cassidy and in limbo as Mick Foley didn't want to work a Mania program with him.

I also wonder if Mero had been around ten years later, is the advancements in health care enough that his knee injury isn’t quite the death knell it seemingly was.

The Foley stuff always was interesting to me as it seems like most people like Mero, but they didn’t want to big shoehorned in as the same “salary level talent” as him.
 

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I really never got the shitting on Mero stuff. Foley had his issues with him beforehand. But, I think a lot of it came from Mero being outspoken about issues in wrestling after Benoit. And the usual gang of wrestling cowards jumped on him because it was safe and they were worried their old boys club was gonna be taken away...cough JBL...
 

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Idk. Foley was pissy about Mero in his first book, although that might have been Mero just catching strays since that book was being written when Sable’s horrible fall out with WWE.
 

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Yeah, Foley had his issues before all that stuff. But, I feel like after Mero started talking about issues in the industry that is when you had the usual gang acting like he was this atrocity to the industry. In reality he was a perfectly fine mid-carder most of his career.
 

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That's the thing though. He's a great midcard guy and a good worker, but was always seen or treated as more than that until the injury. The reasons Foley or Austin or that era of guys didn't like him is because he was seen as a bigger name than they were or would be, which objectively is crazy. He was a Dusty project, as well. They were justified to dislike him in that sense.
 

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Was he treated as more than a mid-carder? His biggest career push was probably in 96, and I don't think he was pushed harder than slightly above mid-card status.

In WCW he was treated as more of a mid-card novelty act.
 

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I think it was because he was paid/hyped more when all three of them debuted in WWF around the same time. That didn’t last long but whatever reason it stuck in Austin and Foley’s craw.
 

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I would argue the pay was mainly because he was fresh off a fairly prominent angle in WCW (WWF "stole" him similar to Pillman who also got more upfront money) while Austin and Foley had been gone for awhile and WWF was more of an opportunity to rebuild themselves.

Obviously Austin and Foley were worlds more talented. But, I just feel Mero gets shit on without a ton of cause. There have been many worse performers who got much bigger pushes.
 

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Wait...are you saying that isn't part of a "self-defense course?"
 
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