WWF New Generation Thread III

[Hawk 34]

I read recently somewhere that Terry Funk was supposed to be one of the Knights at Survivor Series 1993. Is this true? Doesn't seem like a spot he would be interested in.

You would be right, he wasn’t interested in doing the match after hearing the booking plans and passed on the match and an office job by informing Vince with a note about his sick horse.

He wouldn’t see Vince again for 4 years and the first thing Vince said to him was “How’s your horse?”

 

[One Epic Winter (OEW)]

Any actual plans for the angle of Bob Backlund running for President in 95/96? It started a full year before Clinton/Dole so maybe there was a more substantial payoff than the usual WWE election year wankery.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Any actual plans for the angle of Bob Backlund running for President in 95/96? It started a full year before Clinton/Dole so maybe there was a more substantial payoff than the usual WWE election year wankery.

Seems they wanted something for Bob to do without having him work. Wrestlecrap says the Man Mountain Rock vs Backlund series was mostly stalling.
Razor famously requested Dick Murdoch ref his matches with Backlund so he could work around Bob's short comings.

 

[Valeyard]

Geeky face Vince was the perfect Backlund opponent

 

[BruiserBrody]

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862662833340653695

Koko and Virgil stick around into 94 doing jobs and yet we can't find a role for Lance Cassidy?
Maybe once the Gunns show up 6 months later, Cassidy can turn heel. Smothers should be free of WCW by then. We can get some heatless ***1/3 star matches in openers instead of Well Dunn clogging things up.

*Que random Well Dunn loving reply from _______

 

[Valeyard]

Nah fuck Well Dunn.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863221765289480199

 

[Valeyard]

Bradshaw was good and I'm tired of pretending he wasn't. Like a GOAT or something? Fuck no. But dude was really solid and consistent until 2001 or so. JBL was too late when you think about it because Corporate JBL against Austin fucks.

 

[Valeyard]

Is there a reason the Phantasio match made it to TV? Were they actually high on the gimmick or was it a weak taping cycle or something?

 

[BruiserBrody]

Is there a reason the Phantasio match made it to TV? Were they actually high on the gimmick or was it a weak taping cycle or something?

https://www.thesportster.com/wwe-phantasio-failed-attempt-at-a-magician-wrestler/

It truly gets stranger the more the Phantasio mystery is dug into. For those familiar with the earliest version of WWE Developmental being under Jerry “The King” Lawler in Memphis, Phantasio claims to be the very first developmental deal from WWE signed this way. He claims they subsidized his pay and sent him to USWA. In USWA he wrestled under the name Spellbinder, and was active from 1993 until he retired in 2004. Among the other things alleged by Del Rios, the man behind the paint would claim on a rare interview with P3 Radio in 2017 that there are fifty or sixty more matches in the can for Phantasio in WWE that they just chose not to air for some reason. Phantasio said he has many confirmed untapped house show losses.

Bruce Prichard’s claim that Phantasio almost burned down the Gorilla Position, or Phantasio’s claim that he was given the axe because his gimmick was too similar to the Undertaker,

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865139156260917253

Heenan worked Little Bruiser, so a midget clown is just the next level of buffoonery in this crazy business.

Props to Tony Devito being such an angry heel during his intro.
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Vince couldn't find Heenan an office gig in order to get him the insurance he needed WCW for?

Lord Al quitting over a pay cut was silly too, without a gig lined up.

A smaller WWF check was worse than working some AWF Tapings?

 

[snuffbox]

They'd both probably grown a bit tired of seeing others lied to about such office jobs.

 

[HarleyQuinn]

Vince couldn't find Heenan an office gig in order to get him the insurance he needed WCW for?

Lord Al quitting over a pay cut was silly too, without a gig lined up. A smaller WWF check was worse than working some AWF Tapings?

I think at some point it's literally just a simple case of being tired of a particular place and needing a change of scenery/wanting to try someplace else out for a change. Not every wrestler/on-air talent could be swayed to stay by $$ or a job change.

 

[alkeiper]

Lord Alfred was also into his late 60s by that point. Maybe retirement just suited him.

 

[Valeyard]

Never getting heel Hayes to manage Regal is tragic.

 

[alfdogg]

WWF @ Erie, PA – Civic Center – August 29, 1995
WWF Superstars taping:
Lex Luger defeated King Mabel via disqualification when Sir Mo & Davey Boy Smith interfered and left Luger laying; the match was taped to air on the 9/16/95 episode of Superstars but did not, due to Luger leaving for WCW

I feel like they could have drug this "Diesel doesn't trust Luger because of his association with Bulldog" angle out longer instead of planning to blow their wad on the Allied Powers split this fast. I've brought this up before but it kinda shows how little they were invested in Luger at this point and it's no wonder he bolted when he did

 

[Valeyard]

Honestly Luger should've turned instead, if not both of them to give Diesel more to do.

 

[Valeyard]

So I'm sick and just letting the algorithim work until I decide if I want to actually watch a full show on the Cock, but I gotta say that the Leslie Nielson Undertaker stuff is pretty fun. It's fucking dumb but it hits exactly right, you know? Getting Leslie Nielson is probably the hippest thing Vince had done since Cyndi Lauper.

 

[AA484]

 

[BruiserBrody]

Kamala says this came from a Kliq doc that was released during Covid.

 

[Valeyard]

Nash should've worn the belt more. He rocked it.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867615470352052548

Fuji and Yoko share a bedroom Ernie and Bert style

 

[BruiserBrody]

Apparently when they taped the last ever Wrestling Challenge TV in July 95 it was done in St Louis, which for some reason had no local syndicated WWF TV shows airing.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Lord Alfred was also into his late 60s by that point. Maybe retirement just suited him.

Caught the Between the Sheets covering him leaving. He moved to Texas to live with his daughter.

 

[Valeyard]

Even old ass Hayes fits perfectly in that era of WCW. If he came in with Okerlund and Heenan it would've been a boom.

 

[Hawk 34]

Probably would have him be a super biased commentator only for Regal matches.

 

[geniusMoment]

Then WCW would have had women's wrestling expert "Stagger" Lee Marshall for Madusa's matches and Hayes for Regal as a British wrestling expert.

What a timeline!!!!

 

[Hawk 34]

The real missed opportunity is Hayes and Dusty calling matches on da muthaship.

 

[Valeyard]

Only if Hayes kept calling him Sandy Streets like in the old days