WWF New Generation Thread III

[BruiserBrody]

Is there a reason the Phantasio match made it to TV? Were they actually high on the gimmick or was it a weak taping cycle or something?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874611472820822381

 

[Valeyard]

Dude should go on the indies as Danhausen's human father.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Lots of fun stuff here. Dustin the video game nut. Shawn trying to die on the edge of the roof. Bret Hart keeping it 100 by telling the cameras he's burnt out on this shit. Taker and Kama chillin'. Balding Dan Spivey in the corporate offices. Taker's camera look after watching the video game being played. "Goo Goo Dolls" playing sending this video right to the heart of 1995. Razor playing with Zombie Taker while Callaway tries to sink into kayfabe. Love seeing the little kid mark out for Razor in the hallway. Yoko having his hair did up by Fuji. Bucky Beaver cameos. Bret breaks kayfabe and chats with Lawler.
All that time and money spent for the intro (Sept 95) and Nash is about to be ousted as champ, and Dean Douglas and Mercy won't make it to January.
Poor Yoko having to climb ALL those stairs at his girth. Ditto Fuji with his knees.

 

[AA484]

I wasn't sure where to put this and I hate tagging people in posts but I'm sure he wants a distraction from the ring of fire that is next door to him. I thought this may be of interest to you, @909:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1876366418360537512

 

[909]

Yeah for sure I'm gonna pick that up.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Topic on the Stick to Wrestling FB page was why the Million $ Corp didn't work. I liked this answer:

The thing about the Million Dollar Corporation is, it's hard to define what they were doing.
The Four Horsemen--they're banding together to make sure Ric Flair keeps the World Title at all costs, with everyone working together to get the other belts and consolidate the power.
The nWo--They're a group of interlopers who basically snuck into WCW and are now working to tear it down from the inside as revenge for the fans being disrespectful to Hulk.
The Million Dollar Corporation's whole thing was DiBiase makes the "money" gesture with his fingers, the guys join his stable, and we hate them for selling out. How are they selling out, though? And how is being aligned with Ted DiBiase as your manager any more lucrative than being aligned with another manager or no manager?
Also, nobody was really different by aligning themselves with Ted DiBiase, they were all basically the same characters they would have been without him. Sid was Sid, King Kong Bundy was King Kong Bundy. Imagine Bundy coming to the ring in a tailor-made suit and sunglasses with a cigar and a woman on each arm. THEN you have something; DiBiase's influence actually changes the guy.
Tatanka is the best example of this. He turned heel and he was still the same guy, in the same tights, and really the same gimmick, except now he sneers. When he turned heel at Summerslam '94, the very next night on RAW, Ted DiBiase should have introduced "The new member of the Million Dollar Corporation...CHRIS CHAVIS!" And he should have walked to the ring with a suit and a crewcut and diamonds on his fingers and just conducted himself like a white Wall Street asshole and completely betrayed the heritage he was no longer proud of.

Volkoff did do the humiliation angle, but otherwise this is pretty accurate.

I'll always like the idea of Duke the Dumpster getting paid off to turn heel and show up clean shaven in a suit. (As he did in a WWF mag fluff piece)
The logical angle would be for Dibiase to be mad that his UnderFaker was exposed and destroyed and move into Taker vs Bigelow etc but Taker spent until December feuding with Yoko. Then the IRS angle kicked in with PAINFUL vignettes with IRS going to "John Dough's" grave to repo flowers. Which transferred right into the Bundy feud...into the Kama feud and the saga of the stolen Urn.

Kama actually had a look (not sure about needing the white shirt over the singlet (was that to cover up Shango tats?) and maybe had the best chance to actually be elevated from the Taker rub.

The whole product was so lame, who knows if ANYTHING would have gotten properly over.

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This whole house show is horrifying, but Volkoff vs Mantaur has to have caused some sort of suck vortex Iowa has never fully recovered from

WWF @ Sioux City, IA – Municipal Auditorium – August 27, 1994
The 1-2-3 Kid vs. Abe Schwartz (sub. for Rick Martel)
Jerry Lawler vs. Duke Drose
Lex Luger vs. the Barbarian (sub. for Crush)
The Smoking Gunns vs. Well Dunn
Nikolai Volkoff vs. Bruiser Mastino (sub. for Virgil)

 

[Valeyard]

The problem is that Dibiase stopped doing Million Dollar Man things in 1989, really. At latest 1990 when he bought Sapphire that coat.

The bigger problem is that he could never get comeuppance due to his injuries and thus there would never be a satisfying moment for literally any feud. Even forgetting he was a shockingly shitty manager, he needed to eat a forearm or a tombstone or a flying headbutt for any satisfying end to work. It was just sad.

 

[BruiserBrody]

I main evented Raw and starred in Die Hard before ditching it all for art career

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[BruiserBrody]

I didn't realize the Rougeau Bros have been estranged since 1994. It was at least partially due to Jacques retiring in a special show in Oct of 94 (beating Pierre in Montreal in front of 18K) and then turning around 2 months later and trying to get himself booked in WCW, leading to the WWF countering his efforts since he was under contract.
Ray came out publicly against his brother and gave a WWF rah rah speech since they were signing his paychecks.

Ray and Jacques will do conventions, but aren't really talking.