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Who is going to win the election


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Conspiracy_Victim

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That professor from American University, Lichtman I think, that predicts the presidential race and has picked every winner for like the last 30 years called this a month or 2 ago. I laughed when I heard about it.

That's really all I can think of with this. Bizarre.
 

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It is kinda funny that liberals are blaming a Jewish woman for electing the Anti-Semite misogynist.
 

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Conspiracy_Victim said:
That professor from American University, Lichtman I think, that predicts the presidential race and has picked every winner for like the last 30 years called this a month or 2 ago. I laughed when I heard about it.

That's really all I can think of with this. Bizarre.

Yeah, I posted about that at the time. He had like 5 or 6 questions or something that hr uses for his algorithm that pointes to Trump. Nobody listened, perhaps because we want to think the we are independent and unpredictable but maybe when it comes down to it the human race at large is just a computer program with behaviour easy to predict based off of trends.

The kkk can fuck off, Trump denounced them and they had nothing to do with getting him elected of course they'd try to claim credit.

Don't forget that the same media which had led some of you to believe that Trump never had a chance from the primaries all the way through are the same media which paints Trump to be a monster. Everything he had said has been taken wildly out of context and used to make him look much much worse than he is.

Example

"We need to put a ban on muslims coming into this country until we can figure out whats going on"

This could be interprited in two ways. 1. The way I would like to interprit it. "Hey attacks are going on around he globe and have been corrolated to the syrian refugees. Let's figure out a better vetting process before we start accepting them into the country en mass." And 2. The way it's been interprited in the media "im hitler I hate muslims they arent welcome in my america"

I hope and feel that I am right about this and that he will be no worse than any other republican president, which is still bad when it comes to social issues.

I say we split North America down the middle and have one side be a haven for liberals and one side be a haven for conservatives then our government could always be closer in line with our beliefs.
 

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And with Trump there's always the hope that he'll say fuck you republicans since half of you mever supported me and some of his previous liberal values will come out...

I'm trying to be optimistic.

There's also the chance that America aligns with Russia and allows them to freelyinvade countries now and thus began WWIII
 

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Honestly, I could see the GOP having him killed. Of course they'd have to make it look like the work of Muslims or some other group they want to target.
 

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#sorrynotsorry said:
People survived 12 years of Reagan-Bush and 8 years of Dubya. We'll be ok

Sums up my thoughts exactly.
 

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/09/here-is-what-president-trump-means-for-lgbt-rights/
If an anti-LGBT majority is built up on the Supreme Court, a harmful precedent on LGBT rights could be established for decades, not just for four years.

There are many issues that may end up before the court – from transgender rights, to anti-discrimination protections, to ramifications from the 2015 same-sex marriage ruling – which could be set back.

This terrifies me a shit ton. Remember all that progress since 2004? It's all gonna get wiped out and for future generations too...

On September 23, Trump confirmed he would sign the so-called First Amendment Defence Act, which bans the government from taking any “action against a person, wholly or partially on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with a religious belief or moral conviction that marriage is or should be recognised as the union of one man and one woman, or that sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

The broadly written law would effectively legalize all discrimination against LGBT people in all sectors – from employment to retail to healthcare – as long as the person discriminating claims it was due to their religion.
 

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I just feel like he's going to be a figurehead and most of the decisions will be made behind the scenes. He's aware of his inexperience and is probably terrified himself. That doesn't mean he is going to surround himself with people we feel are competent or believe in the direction we want the country to go in, but I feel it will at least be enough to keep him from doing anything too stupid. It will be harder for some than others for the next four years but those people need to keep standing up for what they believe in and not cave or give up.
 

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There'll be plenty of time for surrendering in the underground sugar mines.

I'm convinced the Democrats will take the completely wrong message from this and move even further right.
 

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As someone who tries to see things down the middle (yeah me and nearly everyone else around, rite?), right now I feel like I'm just seeing the mirror image of eight years ago. In 2008 half the country said "Yes, hope and change" while the other half said "fuck, there's no hope or change with this guy." This year half the country said "Yes, make America great again" and the other half is saying "no, America is going to fucking suck again."

Only difference is that there's not likely to be a left wing version of the Tea Party springing up in the next two years...
 

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States that voted for Obama 2x that just voted for Trump:
Florida
Ohio
Iowa
Wisconsin
Michigan*
Pennslyvania*
Good luck calling them racist.
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No. I've got family here in Michigan that became openly racist after this election got going. So no luck needed. The problem was Trump supporters were very passionate about electing him. Clinton voters seemed most "meh"
 

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Just woke up and checked the results. I'm not surprised, but to everyone who was all LOL HE IS NOT WINNING STOP WORRYING, go fuck yourself with a bag if AIDS.

To everyone else, anyone know if someone bought Kavorkian's practice when he died?
 

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Yeah, but what else can you do? I'm certainly not going to give up in standing for what I believe in but I'm not going to be all "woe is me" and bitchy-complainy for the next four years because I hated it when people did it for the past eight. Work with what you have, even if it's a pile of shit. Being contrarian and argumentative for the sake of being so gets us nowhere.
 

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Agree with LOTC.

This is disgusting. My son will go into grade school with this guy in charge of the country. If someone talked to me the way Trump talked to his debate opponents, I would punch them, and I'm not an aggressive person. I've already talked about the policy implications of this, which are horrendous, but just on a personal level this is deeply disturbing. Even if we don't get the wall, Muslim ban, rounding up of immigrants at gunpoint, the implications of this for tens of millions of people are tragic.

Putin's happy tho!

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/world/2016/11/09/93534066/
 

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Harley Quinn said:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/09/here-is-what-president-trump-means-for-lgbt-rights/
If an anti-LGBT majority is built up on the Supreme Court, a harmful precedent on LGBT rights could be established for decades, not just for four years.

There are many issues that may end up before the court – from transgender rights, to anti-discrimination protections, to ramifications from the 2015 same-sex marriage ruling – which could be set back.

This terrifies me a shit ton. Remember all that progress since 2004? It's all gonna get wiped out and for future generations too...

On September 23, Trump confirmed he would sign the so-called First Amendment Defence Act, which bans the government from taking any “action against a person, wholly or partially on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with a religious belief or moral conviction that marriage is or should be recognised as the union of one man and one woman, or that sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

The broadly written law would effectively legalize all discrimination against LGBT people in all sectors – from employment to retail to healthcare – as long as the person discriminating claims it was due to their religion.

I honestly feel like a lot of this has to be coming from Pence as he's the bible-thumper of that group.

Trump has said he wants to turn this over to the states. We can only hope that the pendulum in America has swung enough that the states would do the right thing, but I don't know about that.


Also I don't understand you guys saying Trump is going to come down hard on all the legal weed. When has he ever indicated that?
 

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I mean, right now we have people outside my work chanting "Pack your bags, Pat!" I'm happy that Cooper won but at the same time this just sounds like some petty, butthurt, sore loser bullshit because people are pissed that Trump won. Show some balls and get through the next four years with your dignity and we'll try it again.
 

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Being contrarian and argumentative for the sake of being so gets us nowhere.

I don't know what you're even talking about.

If you mean we should be like "Trump is going to take away health insurance from tens of millions of people, oh well, woopsy daisy" or "Trump is rounding up my neighbors and their children for deportation, shucks," well then I disagree.
 
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Lord of The Curry said:
AA484 said:
#sorrynotsorry said:
People survived 12 years of Reagan-Bush and 8 years of Dubya. We'll be ok

Sums up my thoughts exactly.

This is such a fucking moronic mentality to have.

"Let's see how much more pain we can endure".

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But if you were arguing for keeping health insurance and not deporting your neighbors you aren't being a dick just because you lost. Those are real, tangible issues to take a stand on. Being childish and petty in general is more along the lines of what I'm getting at; i.e. "Trump isn't my president."
 

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AA484 said:
I mean, right now we have people outside my work chanting "Pack your bags, Pat!" I'm happy that Cooper won but at the same time this just sounds like some petty, butthurt, sore loser bullshit because people are pissed that Trump won. Show some balls and get through the next four years with your dignity and we'll try it again.

I'm just not sure trying it again will work. I've realized since I've been an adult that Democrats appear to be super terrible at winning elections and doing what they need to do to get elected.

Plus overall I just feel like most Americans are more conservative that we like to admit. Maybe that's changing as the older generation dies off but I know plenty of young pissed off rednecks. Then again I live in a red state so take that for what you will.


I swear I heard someone yell "Kill Obama!" during Trump's acceptance speech last night.
 

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"Trying it again" does not imply that there won't be changes made along the way to ensure a better chance of success. Don't get me wrong.
 

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Real people were hurting for years and Trump tapped into it. Accept the results, move on, start listening and empathizing with people that disagree with you.
 

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Also I don't understand you guys saying Trump is going to come down hard on all the legal weed. When has he ever indicated that?

I don't think he would, personally, but if he goes and puts Chris Christie as Attorney General? It's happening.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/chris-christie-enforce-marijuana-illegal-2016-120769

“Marijuana is against the law in the states and it should be enforced in all 50 states,” the New Jersey governor said on “Fox and Friends” Wednesday morning. “That’s the law and the Christie administration will support it.”
 

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I just don't have any faith anymore in the Democratic party to do what needs to be done. I've watched them get punked by Republicans since Bill Clinton left office on a local and national level. It's kind of disheartening as a Democrat.

What hurting are you referring to stillfly? I'm not being snarky btw: I just want you to elaborate.
 

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I think he's referring to rural, white America feeling like they've been neglected and looked down upon for the past eight years.
 

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So blithe condescension and disregard for people whose lives are shit was not a winning strategy for a center-left party after all.
 
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