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BruiserBrody
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He still flubbed the line, "We can't take four more years of...George....uh...."
FAKE FAKE NEWS! It'll be in the ads by tomorrow.
They ran on Obama saying "You didn't build that" when he was talking about funding roads that lead to their businesses. Context is king.
biden has been famous for flubbing lines for decades. trump flubs 100 lines a speech. It has not mattered 1 tiny bit to voters for either man. No one cares. There are no undecided voters left in any appreciable numbers even by the standards of recent elections. They can ran a benny hill reel of every verbal flub he's made and it won't change people's minds.
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I was encouraged by the number of Hispanic and Black voters at the early voting today. Clearly this state isn't going to shift from red to blue for the presidential election but extrapolating this anecdotal data to more liberal hot spots gives me hope that minorities nation wide are going to make sure this fuckwit is bounced out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Though, we do have a 2nd term Democratic governor, so who knows what will happen 11/3/2020.
Though, we do have a 2nd term Democratic governor, so who knows what will happen 11/3/2020.
Gaffes only matter when there's no election issue really separating the candidates from each other. It's 2020. There are countless differences this time.
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You guys gonna riot when Trump drags this thing into the Supreme Court?
I have a shotgun if y'all wanna borrow it.
I have a shotgun if y'all wanna borrow it.
Yeah they're gonna overturn millions of votes personally going through which ones have to be thrown out. Cause that's happened before.
They would be the first to get got so I don't think that would be the most prudent thing anyone has ever done.
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I'm more impressed that there are people who are so thick they can't read the tea leaves. Everyone except the most delusional have been complaining about the pandemic and complaining that their family are dying. You should listen to them and not people on Twitter.
I posted the difference between this and the last time. People who wanted Hillary to win didn't listen when people already told you they don't like that bitch. That is all there is to it. Nobody told anyone that about Joe Biden.
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The Supreme Court ended up deciding the 2000 election because of a number of circumstances in Florida, with its deciding electoral votes, and where the tally (the truth of which we will probably never know) was so close. I don't see how that can happen again. Even if Trump manages to cheese curd squeak Wisconsin again (the latest poll shows Biden with a lead well outside the MOE), he doesn't appear to be competitive in enough states to get even close to 270.
I have seen Wisconsin as close up as you, Brody. I have little confidence in the voters of this state. But we did do well last time around, in 2018 (plus a state supreme court race since then as well). And the Dems would've won both houses of the state legislature were it not for gerrymandering, and by a fairly wide margin. They can't gerrymander a statewide race. That's why the lost the governor race in '18. It's why they're losing supreme court seats.
I keep running 3 separate electoral maps. A hopeful one, a pessimistic one, and one based most closely on current polling averages. Even the pessimistic one, with Wisconsin sticking with Trump, and no upsets, it's still a Biden win.
I have seen Wisconsin as close up as you, Brody. I have little confidence in the voters of this state. But we did do well last time around, in 2018 (plus a state supreme court race since then as well). And the Dems would've won both houses of the state legislature were it not for gerrymandering, and by a fairly wide margin. They can't gerrymander a statewide race. That's why the lost the governor race in '18. It's why they're losing supreme court seats.
I keep running 3 separate electoral maps. A hopeful one, a pessimistic one, and one based most closely on current polling averages. Even the pessimistic one, with Wisconsin sticking with Trump, and no upsets, it's still a Biden win.
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The polls said they shouldn't have been confident because there were a massive amount of undecided voters. Not the case this time. Keep going though.
This means that in all likelihood, their quest to get ballots thrown out is...going to lead to GOP favorable ballots getting thrown out.
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I'm not concerned about Biden losing. What keeps me up at night is the Supreme Court throwing out the vote and picking Trump anyways. I haven't been in the US for almost a year due to COVID. Please tell me my concerns are baseless and I'm just being paranoid.
They would have to come up with a uniform standard that would get the workers who count them to toss out millions of votes. And by that I mean they would have to throw out votes that would include many if not even more votes for Republicans than Democrats. There's not any end run around that. The states certify the election results, not the federal government.
In addition, their god Mitch McConnell can't have power if there ain't any country left to have power in. Neither can they. This is all just fantasy talk anyway as Trump doesn't want to be there firstly and secondly the vote margin will be too large to even attempt to try something. Mitch also said on the senate floor that the things they did will likely be undone after the election. They know what's up. It's all a game to this dude anyway and surely he thinks they will win an election in two years.
If they actually did that? If you think this summer was bad you've seen nothing yet. There are a lot of people who feel like they would be pushed into doing something very bad and have said as much.
Everyone is just being paranoid. Riddle me this though. What was stopping them from doing that in the midterm two years ago? They had a SCOTUS majority then. Nothing's changed. Those judges know their jobs are directly tied to keeping the nation stable. They won't be the judge of anything if they don't. They put those judges in place as a bulwark in full expectation of receiving electoral losses. They're there cause they'll be there when all those Republicans lose office.
In addition, their god Mitch McConnell can't have power if there ain't any country left to have power in. Neither can they. This is all just fantasy talk anyway as Trump doesn't want to be there firstly and secondly the vote margin will be too large to even attempt to try something. Mitch also said on the senate floor that the things they did will likely be undone after the election. They know what's up. It's all a game to this dude anyway and surely he thinks they will win an election in two years.
If they actually did that? If you think this summer was bad you've seen nothing yet. There are a lot of people who feel like they would be pushed into doing something very bad and have said as much.
Everyone is just being paranoid. Riddle me this though. What was stopping them from doing that in the midterm two years ago? They had a SCOTUS majority then. Nothing's changed. Those judges know their jobs are directly tied to keeping the nation stable. They won't be the judge of anything if they don't. They put those judges in place as a bulwark in full expectation of receiving electoral losses. They're there cause they'll be there when all those Republicans lose office.
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I should also point out that Trump can't even go out during an eclipse without staring straight at the sun. The idea that he or his team are competent enough to handle an election rigging when they can't even keep Borat from taping one of them putting their hand in their pants is patently ludicrous. They've also taken countless losses legally and walked straight into an impeachment. They also squandered a huge majority just two years ago when the House was planned to be gerrymandered out of the reach of the other party. They lost numerous seats that they had deliberately drawn out to be impossible to lose. They couldn't even do that right and fucked up so bad that 10 million more people voted for the other party in a midterm!
The only other time a party ever lost a midterm as bad as these people was after Watergate, but things let up after that scandal. Things haven't let up since 2016. These people are about to take the ass pounding of a lifetime. Enjoy that shit.
The only other time a party ever lost a midterm as bad as these people was after Watergate, but things let up after that scandal. Things haven't let up since 2016. These people are about to take the ass pounding of a lifetime. Enjoy that shit.
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I feel like the Wisconsin boys post this election cycle is proving that Putin's mission of sewing mistrust in election system is working bah gawd.
(I'm close enough to 2nd District of Maine where Trump had a shocking come from behind win in 2016 that I will still believe him being sodomized at the polls when I see it tho)
(I'm close enough to 2nd District of Maine where Trump had a shocking come from behind win in 2016 that I will still believe him being sodomized at the polls when I see it tho)
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@Kahran Ramsus As I alluded to above, the SCOTUS is not in charge of elections. They decided 2000 (wrongly, imo) due to the circumstances of a close election coming down to one closely contested state. In other circumstances, such as if no candidates attain 270 electors, the House chooses the president. But, again, these all come back to very specific situations. If Biden gets enough votes, he wins. Now we have to hope he gets those votes.
@King Kamala I don't get it. It's kind of dumb, tbh. I must've explained Wisconsin election anxiety here at least a dozen times. I'm p sure you've read several if not all of those posts. It has nothing to do with Putin. Putin didn't convince these folks that teachers are making millions. Walker did, thrice. And, after that, Trump won here in 2016. Trump is spending more money here over the past few weeks because he thinks he can do it again. Kenosha helped him (the polling on BLM here after that is sickening). The most recent polling suggests it's looking better but the average is still too close to the MOE, imo. And that is my opinion because Trump won outside the MOE 4 years ago. Recent elections suggest WI is still blue but gerrymandering fucks it up. Again, statewide elections can't be gerrymandered. But neither could 3 consecutive governors races in 2010, 2012, and 2014 (and the 2016 presidential). All we can do is hope that the voters get it right. And in reality and in fact, the voters have a not great track record over the past decade.
@King Kamala I don't get it. It's kind of dumb, tbh. I must've explained Wisconsin election anxiety here at least a dozen times. I'm p sure you've read several if not all of those posts. It has nothing to do with Putin. Putin didn't convince these folks that teachers are making millions. Walker did, thrice. And, after that, Trump won here in 2016. Trump is spending more money here over the past few weeks because he thinks he can do it again. Kenosha helped him (the polling on BLM here after that is sickening). The most recent polling suggests it's looking better but the average is still too close to the MOE, imo. And that is my opinion because Trump won outside the MOE 4 years ago. Recent elections suggest WI is still blue but gerrymandering fucks it up. Again, statewide elections can't be gerrymandered. But neither could 3 consecutive governors races in 2010, 2012, and 2014 (and the 2016 presidential). All we can do is hope that the voters get it right. And in reality and in fact, the voters have a not great track record over the past decade.
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909 I let you be Coronavirus Alex Jones, now I'll do the panicking in here:
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As a divided Supreme Court on Monday resolved a fight over absentee voting rules in Wisconsin, the justices exchanged warnings about a troublesome scenario: the possibility that next week’s presidential election leads to days or even weeks of legal maneuvering and uncertainty about the winner.
Justice Brett Kavanaugh conjured up the specter of such a protracted battle as he argued in favor of allowing states to maintain firm deadlines requiring absentee ballots to be received by election officials on Election Day.
“Those States want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election,” Kavanaugh wrote in a concurring opinion released Monday night. “And those States also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”
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Trump's been laying out the game plan for weeks, now we gotta go 85 Bears on them to prevent the score.
In Wisconsin decision, Supreme Court foreshadows election night cliffhanger
Justices Kavanaugh and Kagan spar over a potential vote-counting imbroglio.
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As a divided Supreme Court on Monday resolved a fight over absentee voting rules in Wisconsin, the justices exchanged warnings about a troublesome scenario: the possibility that next week’s presidential election leads to days or even weeks of legal maneuvering and uncertainty about the winner.
Justice Brett Kavanaugh conjured up the specter of such a protracted battle as he argued in favor of allowing states to maintain firm deadlines requiring absentee ballots to be received by election officials on Election Day.
“Those States want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election,” Kavanaugh wrote in a concurring opinion released Monday night. “And those States also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”
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Trump's been laying out the game plan for weeks, now we gotta go 85 Bears on them to prevent the score.
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Yes, it needs to be a decisive as possible. We cannot, we must not, allow the courts (or gerrymandered legislatures) to get involved. They can't be trusted. Yes, these fucks want a close election because, yes, that is how they can get involved and change it. But a decisive win renders them moot. They will lose power, even in a court majority. And their whining will be so prolific we might water our spring plants with it.
comparing 909 to alex jones is beyond silly. He was pretty damn accurate about a lot of what he said about coronavirus and has consistently provided a ton of information on it for everyone thats panned out.
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This 21-Year-Old College Student Just Voted For President For The First Time. She Feels More Empowered Than Ever.
Donald Trump won Michigan by a mere 10,704 votes in 2016. Kiara Cain hopes her first-ever vote in the presidential election can help prevent that from happening again.
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"Cain ultimately voted for Biden via an absentee ballot on Monday. She just did not expect that being an informed voter would be this challenging. She’s frustrated that it takes so much research to decide whom and what she’s voting for, and she worries that it will turn off young voters like herself from exercising their right to vote.
Exit polls showed that college-educated and working-class white voters came out for Trump that year in higher numbers than expected. Meanwhile, Black voter turnout in Michigan shrank by 12.4% from the 2012 election.
Most students in college are newly eligible to vote, and campus voter drives help register many students who would otherwise have to travel off-campus to do so. Cain herself registered to vote on campus at some point before the pandemic (she doesn’t remember when exactly).
“I’m voting for Joe Biden just because I’ve seen more of his heart and his personality as a human instead of somebody that’s trying to say the right word at the right instances,” she said. “He slips up, he makes mistakes, and it’s not that he goes to social media or acts out in a certain way when things go wrong for him. He holds himself in a different manner. It’s still professional, and it’s like…an adult.”
Trump campaign is apparently pulling all or almost all of their cash out of Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Arizona and Texas because they have so little of it. Varies by state whether it's all or almost all. They are putting it all into Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. Not Wisconsin apparently so they must strongly assume they're going to lose there. Supposedly they could run out of money on Election Day itself, and Trump is putting in none of his own cash this time. So tell me more about how they're gonna do all these litigation battles without any money. They straight up don't have it and he straight up doesn't want to win.
I think the only two of those states they'll even win are Texas and Ohio, but it sounds like Texas is truly up for grabs now.
I think the only two of those states they'll even win are Texas and Ohio, but it sounds like Texas is truly up for grabs now.
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I think Biden takes Arizona, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Trump basically lost himself Arizona this year (last time they went Democrat was 1996). PA in 2016 was still wicked close and feels like an outlier year. Same for Wisconsin when they had gone Democrat from 1988-2012. I think Trump burned enough bridges in Ohio that he lost it and Ohio generally gives the winner 50%+ of the vote. Iowa tends to be pretty Democratic and even in 2004 it was won by 0.6% of the vote by Bush.
I can see Trump taking Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas. Florida's always been super close even when it voted Democrat. I don't trust Georgia or Texas to flip this election at least and North Carolina is just a gut feeling.
I can't see it being close enough where the litigation pressure will matter or amount to anything.
I can see Trump taking Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas. Florida's always been super close even when it voted Democrat. I don't trust Georgia or Texas to flip this election at least and North Carolina is just a gut feeling.
I can't see it being close enough where the litigation pressure will matter or amount to anything.
Dunno how many people know this, but NC's GOP incumbent senator has only polled ahead in one real poll since June. It's very tough for me to see the ticket splitting over there when that guy is supposedly reviled.
Worst case imo is Trump winning Ohio, Iowa, Florida, Georgia, and Texas. Still doesn't win the election if that happens. Their strategy to actively toss Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona in the trash was so fucking bad. Aggressively stupid. They turned Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and Virginia into blue states all on their own.
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Yeah. I just don't discount Trump because he's still close enough in the main NC polls. 3 Polls on 10/27 had Trump at -4% (937), -1% (647), and -1% (800). The good news is that Cunningham's been dominant in the Senate polls so I think it bodes very well for Biden as you've said but that's a state I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing.
NC is a state that votes blue when motivated -- see the 2016 gubernatorial race which was won by a Democrat simply because the GOP incumbent was reviled for his "bathroom bill." That was the same year the state went red in the presidential election. Biden (or at least the shittiness of four years of Trump) seems to have again motivated them to come out blue nationally.