Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1375520317288951810

 

[Baby Shoes]

I felt like I had seen that before and sure enough, the YouTube link says the video has been up for seven years.

My one surprise today was seeing Evan Karagias, as I forgot he was one of the guys that got sent to developmental and was never seen again.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I'm mildly surprised Evan Karagias didn't pop up anywhere after WCW given how he was one of the faces of the cruiserweight division in last two years. Granted it was worst period for division and he may have been worst non Ed Ferrera champion but still. It seemed like he had type of look that was popular in early '00s. And he had enough attitude & ego to challenge Goldberg to an IRL fight over Goldberg cupping his balls before he shook Evan's hand.

Looking at his Cagematch, I think @Laz will like to know that his most prominent post WCW appearances were in XPW

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And @BruiserBrody might be excited to know that he was a Dale Gagner era AWA Heavyweight Champion. And @Baby Shoes might be intrigued by that Chris Harvard Vs Josh Matthews match.

Matches « Evan Karagias « Wrestlers Database « CAGEMATCH - The Internet Wrestling Database

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[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1375434646939373574

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Vince inducts him with this huge speech about respect and personal growth and blah blah blah. Bisch comes out and just says "Bite me" and leaves to the porno music.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1375571157865365510

 

[BruiserBrody]

I knew of Evans AWA stuff because of looking up title histories.

We really can't be surprised they didn't use him when even stars like Goldberg, DDP, BP Pump and Booker were booked poorly. T's best success came when he became King Booker for goodness sake.

Evan had a good look, but his ceiling at that time would have been losing to X-Pac in matches in the Gillberg division.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Looking at his Cagematch, I think @Laz will like to know that his most prominent post WCW appearances were in XPW

I actually knew that already. XPW was a big guilty pleasure for high school Laz, still reeling from the closures of ECW and WCW, and not wanting to pay tons of money for CZW tapes when XPW tapes were sold in FYE.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1375598634268508166

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1375682366979649540

WWE desperately needs this kind of energy. Malcolm Bivens could be in the Teddy Long role, maybe @Baby Shoes would be able to determine which current WWE official would make the best sleazy injured heel ref.

 

[Baby Shoes]

The one that uses too much self tanner.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Big Malcolm is way more hardcore than Drake. (both the rapper and the death match wrestler turned NXT ref/Q freak)

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1376323247734673412

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1376352841032404992

@The Valeyard watching me lose consciousness as I get pelted by a barrage of jumbo cocktail shrimp at TSM Convention in Vegas.

 

[Valeyard]

Not unless you're really Frank Calliendo.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1376606316408532995

WCW stock music was the best/worst

 

[Fall of Epic]

IIRC, Damien was actually kind of popular in the early 2000s in the West Coast indy scene as one half of "Mexico's Most Wanted".

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I'll point out that they had a big run in XPW before @Laz does.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I'll point out that they had a big run in XPW before @Laz does.

Almost made me spit my ginger ale all over my work station.

And yes. They did. Probably the only good tag team that XPW ever had.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1376563261546586119

cue harmonized moaning from me and @BruiserBrody

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1376692945655566336

@Laz's response when I ask him if he wants to go to a yacht rock concert while we're in Vegas.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Pfffft, like I can kick that high anymore

 

[Hoff]

@King Kamala does he say to feed him your throat because if so I think we need to move this discussion to a private message....

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1377048451351986177

Why did whoever was running the C shows in 1998 bother to try and pull off a fast one on Sgt Craig Pittman fans!?

 

[BruiserBrody]

2021 Bischoff laying out his WCW reboot roster for the Big Bang in 2001 leaves something to be desired. (This week's pod).

His buds DDP and Hogan are in. Also Nash, Luger, and Scott Hall (if he agrees to a deal wherein he would stay clean).
Goldberg is in if they could work out the $$$ (and had other big names to draw with.
Sean O Haire is the project.
RVD would be the fresh guy to push upwards.
Booker and Scott Steiner are in the main event mix.
The best of ROH and TNA would get a shot (Styles, Punk, Daniels, etc) We'd have to pretend the heavies would play ball I guess.
Buff is getting repackaged.
Flair is Babe Ruth.
I'm sure he said Sting was in too but I can't recall off hand.
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I imagine the Hogan and Nash political mess would gum the process up like it was 1999 all over again. I love the Hulk, but the best thing for him at this point and age would probably be a quick run on top with somebody who he'd actually help get over, then a sporadic PPV thing where maybe Jimmy Hart finds a monster of the month to feed him. (Hail, Malice, etc) for maybe a year, then let Vince have him. Hogan had been off TV since the summer of 2000 IIRC, so he'd have a little juice at first.
DDP and Sting MIGHT be able to help get some fresh guys over.
Goldberg would still sit out the Turner deal one would think, so he'd be a year 2 prospect to pop the show.

 

[Baby Shoes]

Did he specifically name Punk? I feel like I don’t buy bringing in Punk in 2001 as anything more than revisionist history as I don’t really remember a punk blowing up until maybe 2003-04 at the earliest. Styles and Daniels were working WCW, so I get that. Punk seems fabricated at that moment in time to me.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Bob Mould said he pushed for WCW to sign CM Punk when he was writer in late '99/early '00. Mould is a Minneapolis guy and that's where Punk first started making noise in the Indies but I still find that claim highly dubious. Maybe there's an alternate universe though where CM Punk is in Three Count though.

 

[BUTT]

Hogan was as expensive as Goldberg at the time so I don't know why the former would be in but not the latter, and I'm also not sure what Hogan's contractual obligations were to Time Warner at that point so I don't know if he would have been available. Steiner wouldn't have been able to work for the rest of 2001 since he had drop foot.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I feel like Hogan's lawsuit against WCW wasn't resolved until years after they went out of business so I have no idea if he was really realistically part of their plans.

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[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1377085801461395460

 

[Baby Shoes]

Where is that match from? I saw the Uncensored mat and was thinking Mr. JL never worked an Uncensored. I don’t see it on match history so I have to assume they filmed Saturday Night as a warmup. When I tried looking it up I found a Nitro match with a similar sequence.