Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[Valeyard]

If Tenta were around now he'd be a fedora away from a resurgence.

 

[BruiserBrody]

I looked up WCW results after Russo took over to see if "Elite" Erik Watts started getting any sort of push. His lone match was a L to Disco.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Only thing I remember from Erik Watts’ ‘99 WCW run was him being “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan’s sidekick in a weird Jimmy Hart booked era Saturday Night exclusive four way feud between them, The Armstrong Brothers, Steven Regal & Dave Taylor and Hugh Morrus & Brian Knobbs.

It’s like head of creative for WCW at the time was like “alright Jimmy, you can book your own angles but you have to pick the names of all of the guys involved out of a hat.”

I thought Erik Watts and Jeff Jarrett became IRL friends during Watts’ ‘99 run but it looks like Watts’ last match was only 3-4 weeks after Double J returned to WCW.

Maybe it was just a “Widely unliked second generation wrestlers got to stick together.” thing.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Was that the "break the curse" run for Steve and Scott Armstrong? Because I remember that being a thing way more vividly than I probably should.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Maybe? It was during the super brief period where Madusa was managing them for some reason.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561047963576721411

Mad over who was hoarding the pills in the WCW locker room?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561081965629022209

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Ex WWF guys in WCW I didn’t know predated Hogan.


Darsow was one year older than I am now in this clip.

(@Laz: same hairline though)

 

[Valeyard]

One of the most underrated big men ever.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Ex WWF guys in WCW I didn’t know predated Hogan.


Darsow was one year older than I am now in this clip.

(@Laz: same hairline though)

And 1994 WCW booked him better than late 1991 WWF did.

To be fair the WWF wouldn't have gotten anything out of Jimmy Golden either but Bunkhouse worked wonderful in WCW.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561689980266844163

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Rereading Controversy Creates Cash as a bathroom book (a literal WCW Bullshit?). First time really reading it in a while. It's kind of amazing how much he glosses over or doesn't talk about it all. He doesn't mention Goldberg's streak ending or The Fingerpoke of Doom at all afaik. Considering how much combative and defensive he gets when his podcast covers '98-'99 now, I get why he doesn't want to dwell on that period. I just wish I got some of thought process on the whys and hows of that angle even if they undoubtedly would've been stupid.

Also he doesn't say anything incendiary enough to justify the title! What a crock! I want the $4 I spent on this at a used book store 10-15 years ago back.

Also @BUTT and that creep parasite Dave Meltzer will probably be pleased to know that Bischoff said that Kevin Nash probably came up with the idea for the Bischoff-Ric Flair angle leading to Starrcade '98, which would imply he WAS in creative when he ended Goldberg's streak.

 

[Valeyard]

Not saying anything controversial to sell a book about controversey is totally the controversial part. Some Alanis-esque ironic irony shit.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Despite all of his blue collar, redneck cosplay, Eric Bischoff definitely seems to be the type of guy who has complained about a fly in his chardonnay.

 

[Valeyard]

Oh Bischoff is totally a Jimmy Buffett style gimmick. "I'm totally a beach bum you guys hey fuck you this water isn't from the Andes you are fired and not allowed near my house in Connecticut again cheeseburger in paradize"

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

He has definitely had to use his Bischoff sleazy charm to try and talk down some angry under or unpaid landscapers.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561502194603540480

What happens when I start calling spots w/ @King of Summer Kamala on the dance floor at TSM Con '22.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Rereading Controversy Creates Cash as a bathroom book (a literal WCW Bullshit?). First time really reading it in a while. It's kind of amazing how much he glosses over or doesn't talk about it all. He doesn't mention Goldberg's streak ending or The Fingerpoke of Doom at all afaik. Considering how much combative and defensive he gets when his podcast covers '98-'99 now, I get why he doesn't want to dwell on that period. I just wish I got some of thought process on the whys and hows of that angle even if they undoubtedly would've been stupid.

Also he doesn't say anything incendiary enough to justify the title! What a crock! I want the $4 I spent on this at a used book store 10-15 years ago back.

Also @BUTT and that creep parasite Dave Meltzer will probably be pleased to know that Bischoff said that Kevin Nash probably came up with the idea for the Bischoff-Ric Flair angle leading to Starrcade '98, which would imply he WAS in creative when he ended Goldberg's streak.

It makes sense that one of the power players called their chips (Nash wins...Hogan ends up w/ title) than to try and blame/credit Sullivan/Dusty/Terry Taylor etc with just booking Goldberg to lose.

Was Bigelow involved in that match in anyway? If my brain doesn't deceive me, his whole deal leading to Starrcade was laying out people on his way to challenging Goldy. I've probably watched Starrcade 98 once. I'm not even sure I made it that far when reviewing all the PPVs for CXF.

If they did something like have Bigelow lay Goldberg out first (ala Macho Man @ Rumble 90) you give Goldberg a little extra of an out, on top of the fuck finish.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Try as he might (and I think he will), Idk if Tony Khan or anyone will ever come up with matchmaking as freewheeling as late '90s WCW C/D shows.

 

[Valeyard]

I actually wish he was better about the random shit on b/c-shows. Pick someone to make the new Lizmark Jr. and get awesome matches with huge names that have literally no point.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

Was Bigelow involved in that match in anyway? If my brain doesn't deceive me, his whole deal leading to Starrcade was laying out people on his way to challenging Goldy. I've probably watched Starrcade 98 once. I'm not even sure I made it that far when reviewing all the PPVs for CXF.

Briefly. He ran out to jump Goldberg after the ref bump, and Goldberg taking him out is what allowed Hall to hit him with the taser.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

There were definitely matches with more obscure names and crappier storylines but for no particularly good reason, Bam Bam Bigelow Vs Wrath at Souled Out '99 stands out to me as one of the "Huh. Why did that happen again?" matches in WCW PPV history.

I'm always surprised when I remember Wrath even made it to 1999. I assumed he just vaporized between the time period where Nash ended his winning streak and Kronik debuted.

Edit- Checking Bryan Clarke's Cagematch and first even as the New Gen connoisseur, I'm surprised he's listed as Adam Bomb not Wrath. Second, Wrath made it to April '99! Although after Souled Out '99, he's mostly a C/D show and hour one of Nitro guy.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

It's a damn shame that Bryan Clarke had the charisma of an undercooked carrot, because he was somebody whose work wasn't bad but just never stood out.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think he just had misfortune of coming up a few years after the heyday of managers. If you put a Bobby Heenan or Paul E. Dangerously with him, I think he's an IC Title/US Title level guy maybe.

 

[Valeyard]

He's a guy who needed to be in the Flock. Get Hammer or Reese outta there.

 

[strummer]

Vince gave up on Clarke pretty quickly. After the babyface turn he's putting over the pushed heels (Shawn, Mabel) pretty quickly in 95.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562246095522209792

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562050402178195459

So he sucked in the ring and sucked on the mic and debuted on one of the worst WCW PPVs ever. Quite a run.

Prior to Nitro I may have only seen him work the one Clash match w/Orndorff unless I'm forgetting something. So not having cable had one benefit.

 

[Valeyard]

I feel bad for him. He had literally no chance.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

The moderate rise and tragic fall of The Renegade - Slam Wrestling

Richard Wilson, known as The Renegade in World Championship Wrestling, died by suicide on February 23, 1999. But the life went out of him long before that. For it is not enough to trace Wilson’s death at 34 to performance-enhancing drug abuse, declining physique and a loss of his WCW contract...

slamwrestling.net

Slam Wrestling article on the tragic life of The Renegade from earlier this year is a fantastic read.

Dude sucked in '95 but he really got the rawest of deals. Killer Kowalski adamantly refused to admit he trained him!

Weird thing is he actually became a passable wrestler but by the time that happened, he was absolutely lost in the shuffle and had no chance of regaining his spot. Idk if there was a worse environment for a young wrestler to come up than '90s WCW. Besides DDP, Idk anyone who turned out well. Even the successful wrestlers seemed to have major character flaws (Goldberg constantly nearly accidentally killing other wrestlers and/or himself through his brutishness)