Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[alkeiper]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601563625453326336

And they make fun of Orange Cassidy

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I love the people who think that anyone could've been the third man and have the nWo succeed. Mabel would've gotten it shit on so hard.

Exactly. The allure wasn't "two guys from the WWF came over," the allure was "Hulk Hogan is a bad guy now." The nWo becomes a short term storyline that doesn't transcend if it isn't Hogan going heel.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

There are other guys who could have worked as the third man with the nWo (Mabel isn't one of them) but I think Hogan is the only one that could have reached that transcendent level. If it's Savage, Luger, Sting, Davey Boy Smith...it's probably just a more prominent/successful Dangerous Alliance and WCW doesn't win 83 weeks in a row.

 

[Valeyard]

It had to be one of Hogan, Bret, Shawn, or Taker to work. That's it. It had to be that kind of top guy identifed with the WWF. There's no way anyone else comes remotely close. But Hogan is the only one who could get that amount of trash thrown at them.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

And they make fun of Orange Cassidy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601991908049707008

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1602864471109783552

Uncomfortable King Kamala moan

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603577318806536192

 

[Fall of Epic]

Daffney and Jerry Only mixing it up on Nitro is too perfect.

Michale Graves is a punk.

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I still swoon over Daffney. RIP

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604143280886890497

I got enough t-shirts (Sting Starbust and Nasty Boys shirts are tempting though) so give me that Monday Nitro denim shirt.

 

[Valeyard]

Bischoff should've spite-signed Didinsky.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604214407541624832

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604451084075941889

Pretty sure Useless Moron Scott Keith claimed this tourney was a shoot, but this looks like a work to me?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604470999310897152

Is there any footage of the '93 Ric Flair-Harley Race house show matches?

(It's late era Harley Race Day on CXF apparently)

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604470999310897152

Is there any footage of the '93 Ric Flair-Harley Race house show matches?

(It's late era Harley Race Day on CXF apparently)

Uploaded this week on the Hospice AWA account!

Verne is back on commentary!

Verne calls Race an 8 time NWA champ... is he actually counting the Singapore switch or is he just confused?

Tony Denucci does the springboard elbow during his squash match with the Hangmen and Lee Marshall calls it a “Muta”.

The Hangman LOSE to the jobbers due to DQ for coming off the top rope “on a prone opponent”. They used a variant of Demolition’s finisher. Upon watching the replay, Lee and Verne are confused by the rule and the DQ. Awesome.
On top of that, the one jobber fires up and clears the ring of the Hangmen afterwards. Wowza.

Trooper wins his squash with “The Big Pinch”. A neck massage. He slaps the shit out of the jobber after the match to revive him.

We get a rare promo from Larry Cameron’s AWA cameo.

Summerslam 90 is about to take place and Sarge is still being referenced on AWA TV. 6 weeks to go in the TCS!!

Race vs Larry:
A fan heckles Race with “You lost yer job at WWF, didn’t cha?”

They do a schmozz finish, complete with the whole jobber crew coming in to split the men up. A rematch is announced for Kansas City w/ Bob Geigel promoting.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I got Brody discombobulated, posting AWA stuff in the WCW thread.

 

[BruiserBrody]

I got Brody discombobulated, posting AWA stuff in the WCW thread.

Ahh Hell, I had both threads open to quote your post and blew the finish.
FML.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604601315941810179

@cobainwasmurdered is probably more upset over these rankings than the current Twitter strife.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

they must have been terrible because it says they were deleted. As all things that may offend me should be.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It was a screen cap of the PWI 500 where Malenko was #1 and Misawa was #2.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604827489573797889

 

[Fall of Epic]

How far were they going to go with the original Shockmaster gimmick before the horrendous debut and leaning into him being a lovable doofus powerhouse?

 

[Slayer]

I remember a similar brief WCW production experiment, maybe around the same time as the in-ring camera, where they hyped up having a hot mic in one corner to better hear all the smack talk, grunting, yelling and such in that portion of the ring. Short-lived I'd guess because it'd be problematic for in-ring shoot communication, and I don't recall it really adding that much to the experience beyond the standard audio set-up

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It was a screen cap of the PWI 500 where Malenko was #1 and Misawa was #2.

Suck it @cobainwasmurdered!

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

**ahem**

...I concur

 

[alkeiper]

In 1996 PWI ranked Malenko 13th, Misawa 28th. Besides '97 every other year from 1991-2001 PWI ranked Misawa higher than Malenko.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

How far were they going to go with the original Shockmaster gimmick before the horrendous debut and leaning into him being a lovable doofus powerhouse?

Someone (possibly even our very own lovable doofus powerhouse @BruiserBrody ) recently posted that there was a short-lived character called The Super Shockmaster in early '94 that retconned the lovable doofus gimmick and was basically what I imagined they would have done with Shockmaster if the debut had gone as planned.

That being said, even if things had gone ideally, I can't imagine the plan was for Shockmaster to be anything more than a mid-card attraction character ("Eric, thith could be our Undertaker, baby! Uncle Fred can pull it off!") that would have been shuffled to the side once Hogan showed up.

Although...it is kind of weird Fred Ottman went back to WWF briefly just as Hulk Hogan showed up and brought all of his old buddies but he probably just figured his brother in law wasn't in charge anymore and he was damaged goods. That brief WWF run gave us Typhoon grooving to the MOM music at least.

 

[strummer]

IIRC he was brought in to do jobs for Yokozuna because Earthquake quit. Pretty sure it was meant to be short term.

 

[BruiserBrody]

How far were they going to go with the original Shockmaster gimmick before the horrendous debut and leaning into him being a lovable doofus powerhouse?

Given he was the brother in law (?) of the booker, and still got a "real" push for like 2 months after falling on his face, I'd wager he was penciled in to work with fellow monster Vader in early 94 after the Sid/Vader angle would have ended.
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A heel turn may have been in order too as Sting was out of fresh things to do in early 1994. He was back into the Rude feud for Superbrawl's 6 man, while working Pretty Wonderful, Regal and Ron Simmons on house shows. (Plus a random couple of Vader matches in Europe to trade the title back and forth)

 

[BruiserBrody]

I like how we have dueling conversations around Misawa and Fred Ottman.
We are not the same.