Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[Valeyard]

We desered Mike Sanders as NWA champion.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Ernest 'The Cat' Miller: WWE Offered Me $220,000 A Year, I Was Making That A Month In WCW | Fightful News

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I know salaries were BS in late era WCW but there is no way that Ernest Miller was making $2.64 million a year, right?

RIGHT!?

 

[BruiserBrody]

Ernest 'The Cat' Miller: WWE Offered Me $220,000 A Year, I Was Making That A Month In WCW | Fightful News

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I know salaries were BS in late era WCW but there is no way that Ernest Miller was making $2.64 million a year, right?

RIGHT!?

$318,283.09
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WCW Payroll Information 1999 | BetheBooker

WCW Payroll Information 1999 Financial Data runs from January 1, 1999 to December 31,1999 COMPLETE PAYROLL RECORDS FOR 19

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[Valeyard]

For reasons I can't explain I think the Cat would kick ass in the RTC.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It wouldn’t have been worse than Val or Godfather. However, the entire run of RTC predates the InVasion/WCW guys being brought in.

 

[Valeyard]

Stevie Richards and the Cat feel like they could potentially be made for each other.

There's probably a timeline where the Cat has Truth's career, too.

 

[Hawk 34]

Stevie Richards and the Cat feel like they could potentially be made for each other.

There's probably a timeline where the Cat has Truth's career, too.

You ain’t wrong. There’s only a 8 year age difference between them.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Difference is Truth actually worked to become a pretty solid wrestler and a great promo. Ernest Miller just seemed like he was messing around between karate school gigs.

I think Truth has been great comedy worker for so long, that we forget what a great promo he could be. Maybe Ernest Miller was capable of the same thing but he just didn't seem to want it, ya know?

 

[Valeyard]

Truth had a wildly superior people to hang with on a regular basis and character changes that necessitated growth. Cat was never booked to be a good worker or to hang with good workers, nor was he ever booked to be taken seriously even when he was supposed to be more of a badass. The Cat could've cut similar promos to Truth's early TNA stuff if he had the change, too. Not as good, but similar.

I still want the George Foreman movie goddammit.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Steve Blackman vs the Cat in THE BLOCK plz.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Ohhhhh...
Piper brings in his 1994 costar Billy "Tae Bo" Blanks into WCW to take out the Cat. Vincent is upset as he thought he was Piper's token black friend.

The following week Keith David is inexplicably occupying the rafter spot that once belonged to Sting.

 

[Valeyard]

WCW should've brought Shonie Carter in to tag with him.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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Tony Rumble is the Henry O. Godwin of New England independent wrestling.

 

[alfdogg]

Too soon?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1742748421025325297

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Last episode on John Arezzi podcast claims that When World Collide drew a better buyrate than Fall Brawl ‘94.

That seems like BS cause if that was the case, Bischoff would have worked with them again even if they were just outdrawing a Hogan-less PPV.

 

[snuffbox]

Might be one of those things where it wasn't available in as many homes, so the average rate was higher, but the total purchases were fewer?

 

[BUTT]

Meltzer said at the time that WCW was claiming Fall Brawl did a .6 or .7 buyrate but his sources were saying closer to .5, but he didn't give actual buy numbers. He quoted Multichannel news as saying When Worlds Collide did a .3 but he his other sources were saying .25 or 55,000 buys. He also noted that When Worlds Collide did double the buys of Halloween Havoc '94 in LA, more buys than Havoc in Chicago and half of Havoc's buys in Canada but did far worse in the Southeast.

EDIT: In his '94 Record Book he has Fall Brawl at .53 and WWC at .24.

 

[Valeyard]

I'm going to say When World's Collide didn't necessarily outdraw it but more people ended up seeing it.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah, Meltzer on the episode said it drew better paid attendance than Hogan Vs Flair at Halloween Havoc two weeks earlier.

WCW and AAA fumbled the bag in not realizing lucha libre’s potential in the US in the late ‘90s. Now AEW and AAA are fumbling the bag in not realizing lucha libre’s potential in the US in the 2020s! Circle of life, folks.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Never thought I’d see Gary Juster get promo time. Really really never thought I’d hear Lee Marshall and Gary Juster mark out for Lizz Winstead.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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I had no idea they attempted a Bunkhouse Stampede after the PPV disaster.

The managers Bunkhouse is a Brody dream match.

Also I always had assumed Dusty was fired right after Starrcade ‘88 but I guess they kept him around for a little bit after.

 

[Valeyard]

I thought they ran it for untelevised shows here and there afterwards. I really wish the concept worked in real life, because it's perfect video game/action figure wrasslin.

Gary Hart and Heyman in the space makes me happy, though.

 

[BruiserBrody]

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I had no idea they attempted a Bunkhouse Stampede after the PPV disaster.

The managers Bunkhouse is a Brody dream match.

Also I always had assumed Dusty was fired right after Starrcade ‘88 but I guess they kept him around for a little bit after.

Dusty worked into Jan and was setting up matches with Road Warriors and Windham on promos before he was fired/ quit once and for all.

I actually wrote the rough draft of a Dusty booked 1989 for CXF, I don't recall if I ever shared it on here.

 

[JHawk]

IIRC the original idea was to do the bunkhouse finals at the Chi-Town Rumble PPV in February before Dusty quit/was fired.

EDIT: A quick look at thehistoryofwwe.com shows Dusty worked Greensboro the next night and that was it

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Look at this post on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QN9A4G77n1Fa2EFC/?mibextid=dD9HTC
Face Davey Boy was probably least comprehensible play by play guy since Bruno.

 

[Valeyard]

If he was a heel and high off his ass, BIZARRE and slurrin' and swearin', he's probably one of the best worst commentators ever.

And Bruno was fine! Just, you know, dry and crusty by 80s standards.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745465219210461306

And WCW took to calling him "The Corporate Giant" for the next few weeks because they thought Vince may dub Wight such. Also rumored as a name was Titan IIRC.

 

[Valeyard]

Every name was better than Big Show. Don't care.

 

[BUTT]

Alternate potential names:
Big Ol' Dad
Jack's Beanstalk
Bunyan
MISTER WIGHT! (Later renamed "MISTA WIGHT!" for trademark purposes)
The 7 Foot Shaft

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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I definitely had this issue of WOW Magazine.

This is one of the worst eras of DDP post AWA.

(Cue @BruiserBrody doing a Bull Shannon head slap)