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I love that movies ignore the laws of force and shit. Real life, yeah the fridge may survive the nuke but Indy's neck and back would have been snapped from the sudden impact on the ground like a plane crash. That's why I excuse the fridge since it was already ignoring some shit I can ignore the rest.
 

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Indy stopped obeying the laws of physics when the Hovitos set up a trap triggered by light in the first five minutes of Raiders.
 

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Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.
 

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Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.

Seriously. That's like a co-worker of mine complaining about a character in Harry Potter dying then coming back to life, but not complaining that they're fucking wizards.
 

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Damaramu said:
Didn't they explain the lack of very many aliens in the original Star Wars Trilogy as the Emperor being racist? Since there's a fuckton more aliens in the prequels. How the hell did they explain technology regressing so much though? The ships and stuff in the original trilogy look like junkers compared to the CG stuff in the prequels.

Ive always put that down to the fact they were at war, and war costs money regardless of your mindtrickery. Reducing the look and styling of the ships into what they had while still doing the same job is good business.

The rebels however had crap looking technology cause they were essentially modifying wrecks they had from the end of the prequals.
 

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Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.

That's a cop out answer. Nobody likes every part of every movie ever made in history, but you can use the same logic and say they're only movies.
 

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pinnacle2.0 said:
Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.

That's a cop out answer. Nobody likes every part of every movie ever made in history, but you can use the same logic and say they're only movies.

Some movies go for realism. Indy does not. There is so much wrong with the first sequence in Raiders (only the most famous part of the entire series) that it is established right away what type of film it is. It is basically a live action Scrooge McDuck comic.
 

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That's why getting upset about the fridge and the boat scene are silly. It's just been established Indiana Jones ignores the laws of science and may be a mutant. The monkey scene and the gopher scene were just kid laughter added insulting bullshit.
 

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I dunno. Those vines are sturdy. Monkey's are also smart and helpful. It's not out of the suspension of disbelief that it could happen that way.

I'm blanking on the "gopher" scene.
 

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Kahran Ramsus said:
pinnacle2.0 said:
Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.

That's a cop out answer. Nobody likes every part of every movie ever made in history, but you can use the same logic and say they're only movies.

Some movies go for realism. Indy does not. There is so much wrong with the first sequence in Raiders (only the most famous part of the entire series) that it is established right away what type of film it is. It is basically a live action Scrooge McDuck comic.
Exactly. The opening scene of the entire series establishes that it's over-the-top and that the likelihood of certain scenarios are wonderfully exaggerated. Suddenly taking one movie in the series to task for continuing on in that tradition, albeit a bit further into the unbelievable (yet, somehow, no less unbelievable than the ARK OF THE COVENANT melting off Nazi faces), is asinine. I don't dislike the Matrix sequels because Agent Smith replicates himself over and over, I dislike them because they're horribly paced and self-righteous movies.

Back to Star Wars.

princess+leia+kirsten+bell.jpg
 

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At the upcoming Episode I 3D screening/press junket at Skywalker Ranch, reporters are not allowed to ask questions. They are asked to bring their children along, and only the children will be allowed to conduct interviews. Seriously.
 

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Kids love movies about taxation and trade disputes.
 

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Smues said:
Kids love movies about taxation and trade disputes.

The Clone Wars really should have already started before the events of the film or started during the course of the first film.
 

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Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Kahran Ramsus said:
pinnacle2.0 said:
Superintendent God-Botherer said:
Indy stopped obeying real-world physics the moment the film started rolling because it's a fucking fantasy/adventure movie series.

That's a cop out answer. Nobody likes every part of every movie ever made in history, but you can use the same logic and say they're only movies.

Some movies go for realism. Indy does not. There is so much wrong with the first sequence in Raiders (only the most famous part of the entire series) that it is established right away what type of film it is. It is basically a live action Scrooge McDuck comic.
Exactly. The opening scene of the entire series establishes that it's over-the-top and that the likelihood of certain scenarios are wonderfully exaggerated. Suddenly taking one movie in the series to task for continuing on in that tradition, albeit a bit further into the unbelievable (yet, somehow, no less unbelievable than the ARK OF THE COVENANT melting off Nazi faces), is asinine. I don't dislike the Matrix sequels because Agent Smith replicates himself over and over, I dislike them because they're horribly paced and self-righteous movies.

Back to Star Wars.

princess+leia+kirsten+bell.jpg

Don't get me wrong, realism wasn't the reason the waterfall scene pissed me off, it was the fact that the movie presented the characters as being in a perilous situation. In Last Crusade, Indy was in danger of falling off a cliff, but he didn't actually fall to the bottom of the cliff inside the tank. I'm not going to talk about it any more though.
 

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It's more a discussion on the ridiculousness of applying real-world physics to a sequel that saw the original in the series defy real-world physics immediately and on a consistent enough basis. Taking issue with the lack of peril of the scene is one thing, but taking issue with their very survival of what occurs when similar has already happened prior in the series is a stretch.
 

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Re: Star Wars Thread: Oh, yeah! I almost forgot! It's not all fun!

So i finally got around to start watching the OT on blu ray.

A New Hope is beautiful. Although i did notice some colour fluctuations during R2s little walk of solitude before being captuded by the Jawas.
 

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/george-lucas-star-wars-interview-288523

The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.

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Senility Wars
 

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Aye. People liked that Han Solo was the rude-as-shit grifter who was only out for a buck before he eventually returned to help Luke destroy the Death Star. As much as the whole series may be about the redemption of Anakin Skywalker, there's definitely the subplot through the OT of Han becoming a decent person who learned that there's other things worth fighting for rather than just to save his own (well, and Chewbacca's, of course) ass.
 
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At this rate, in 5 years Han Solo will be a Space Cab Driver instead of a smuggler, and Jabba is out to get him because Solo said he was too fat to fit into the Space Cab.
 

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The Metal Maniac said:
At this rate, in 5 years Han Solo will be a Space Cab Driver instead of a smuggler, and Jabba is out to get him because Solo said he was too fat to fit into the Space Cab.
This would be worth is if it lead to a bunch of "Jabba so fat" jokes.
 

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Kotzenjunge said:
Anyone go to see Episode I?

I saw it back in 1999. That was enough, thank you.
 

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I never need to see Episode I again. Episode II either. I might see Episode III a second time sometime eventually. I've tried to give the first two chances again but can't. Only thing I enjoy are the lightsaber battles and those aren't as important as telling a good story.
 
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