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Gwar is on tour with Whitechapel (blech, but at least there's some shreds of decency in the otherwise generic deathcore shit they do, like a decent riff here or there), Iron Reagan (a Municipal Waste/Darkest Hour side project, featuring Tony Foresta/LandPhil of MW and Paul Burnette/Ryan Parrish from DH), and A Band of Orcs (a decent deathrash band where they all dress like orcs).

I was hoping they'd bring Ghoul out again, but I'm definitely happy they're sticking with some of the MW boys.
 

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Yeah, it really is. I don't understand the people who prefer "Roots" over it. The latter isn't a bad album per se but the direction they were headed into after wasn't pretty.
 

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I've come around on "Roots", but "Chaos A.D." is so much better and is the best thing the Groove Metal genre produced.
 

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I'd say Astro-Creep 2000 is the best groove metal album, but that one gets considered industrial metal more often than not.

Who the shit prefers Roots? The only song that isn't garbage is the title track.
 

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Can we talk about the first few Soulfy albums? I remember I heard "Bleed" on the radio back in the day and immediately had to get my hands on their first two records.

I was a dumb kid.

I also thought the first Cavalera Conspiracy album was pretty mediocre. Great idea in theory, though.
 

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Laz said:
I'd say Astro-Creep 2000 is the best groove metal album, but that one gets considered industrial metal more often than not.

Who the shit prefers Roots? The only song that isn't garbage is the title track.

That's a little harsh. Cutthroat, Dusted, Straighthate? There's good shit there. The thing I don't like about Roots were all the "tribal" copycats that came after
 

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I really tried listening to it and appreciating it, and I can dig on the agenda behind it and what they tried to do, but it fails far too often for me. "Cutthroat" is a meh filler track at best, similar to "Biotech is Godzilla" but without the solid opening thrash riff. The rest is just yuck.

The part where I came around on Soulfly is when I heard "Frontlines." It reminded me of classic Sepultura and not the nu metal "tribal" experiment Max began Soulfly as, which made me listen to it again. It's still not as good as the majority of Arise (or Schizophrenia...or my favorite Sep album, Beneath the Remains), but it was a step in the right direction.

Cavalera Conspiracy, though, was a reminder that Max could play some heavy and aggressive shit that didn't sound like he was 13 and angry that his mom took his [insert preferred console] away for failing his math test.
 

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GAYGENT OF OBLIVION said:
The thing I don't like about Roots were all the "tribal" copycats that came after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNH4IdCJZf8

UGH.
 

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Real talk: I fucking hate Ill Nino, but I think they did the tribal fusion better than Sepultura/Soulfly ever did. Shit, Incubus did, too, before they got huge.
 

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Ill Nino is one of the few numetal bands I still regularly listen to. Their latest album Epidemia or whatever, was decent but I really enjoyed Dead New World. Their frontman has turned into quite a fatass lately. On a side note, a year or so back, I found a copy of their demo in a local used music store for $1.99.
 

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Next year's Progpower USA roster has been announced. The promoter has really blown his load with this one:

Friday:
Disperse
Orden Ogan
Leprous
Overkill
SEVENTH WONDER performing Mercy Falls in its entirety and recording their first DVD
STRATOVARIUS

Saturday:
Withem
Divided Multitude
Voodoo Circle
MASTERPLAN
Pain of Salvation performing Remedy Lane in its entirety
Jon Olivia's Pain performing Streets: A Rock Opera in its entirety
 

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Tuesday brings us two releases that are getting a whole hell of a lot of hype when Carcass returns with Surgical Steel and Gwar drops their 13th studio album Battle Maximus. The two new Carcass tunes were very welcomed and showed that they can still blow quality impersonators Exhumed and Impaled out of the water (and I love those bands), and Gwar is FUCKING GWAR, and early reviews (not even just from metal critics) all seem to be positive.

...then again, early reviews of St. Anger were worshiping it as the second coming, so I guess we'll see.

But really.

GWAR.

'Nuff said.
 

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I'm picking up tickets tomorrow to see Kamelot and Delain in Atlanta on the 28th. I'm pumped beyond rational thought. This will be my third time seeing Kamelot and second time seeing Delain.
 

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Going to see Trivium and Devildriver on Tuesday. I didn't pay for the ticket, so I'm just going to get completely hammered before I get kicked out.
 

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Watched Jeopardy a few nights ago and forgot to post this little gem:

"Darrell Abbot, Philip Anselmo, Vinnie Paul, and Rex Brown comprise which popular heavy metal group?"

Dude buzzed in and answered "Who are Metallica" before time ran out and Alex corrected him with "Who are Pantera". I wondered why they didn't use Dimebag Darrell then quickly realized they probably didn't want a pot reference on a popular game show.
 

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Zimmerman Lynched My Skittles said:
Going to see Trivium and Devildriver on Tuesday. I didn't pay for the ticket, so I'm just going to get completely hammered before I get kicked out.
Never been a fan of Trivium, but Devildriver have become something of a guilty pleasure for me.
 

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I'm on the fence about the new Gwar album, Battle Maximus. Not about whether it's good or not, because it's pretty fucking great, but about whether it's better than Beyond Hell (my favorite) or not. It's definitely up there with Scumdogs and Beyond Hell, that's for damn sure, and the whole thing is such a tremendous blend of 80's style melodic thrash with the punk feel that's always been a cornerstone of Gwar musically...well, let me just say this: Brent "Pustulus Maximus" Purgason is a totally welcomed follow-up following the death of Cory "Flattus Maximus" Smoot. The only meh track is "Falling," but it serves as the closest thing to a legitimately heartfelt tribute to their fallen brother, and it's surprisingly moving in a sense. Plus, it's preceded by three of the best songs Gwar's done in the last decade via "Mr. Perfect," the instrumental title track (which blows away the other Gwar instrumental, "A Short History of the End of the World," which was the best highlight of an otherwise completely mediocre album), and "Triumph of the Pig Children" (considering the quality they've done since War Party dropped in '05, that's saying something about those songs), so it's fine by me. That's not to say that the first chunk of the album isn't great, though: "Madness at the Core of Time" is a great opener (despite the first track technically being "Intro," where Oderus laments the fall of Flattus), "Bloodbath" is sure to go down as one of their heaviest, "Raped at Birth" is hilariously violent in the way that we've all come to expect from the Scumdogs of the Universe, and each song builds upon the last in a way that few Gwar albums (outside of Beyond Hell, where each song was a chapter in the story) have, but it's the 1-2-3 combo of "Mr. Perfect," "Battle Maximus," and "Triumph of the Pig Children" that steal the show here. All in all, I'm giving the album 9/10, with the 1 detracted due to the sudden drop from "Falling" and how finale "Fly Now" doesn't quite pick up the pace (similar, again, to Beyond Hell, where proper closer "Back in Crack" is the worst song on the entire album).

The new Carcass album, Surgical Steel, is pretty damn good, too, and while I love that the innovators of grind and melodic death are back in action, this almost seems more like a release that impersonators Exhumed (whose new album Necrocracy is one of their best) and Impaled (those Portland boys whose side project, Ghoul, is much more popular and pound-for-pound fun than the main group) would drop as another chapter in their worship of Jeff Walker and company. There are a few moments when I could've sworn that the same song was repeating over again due to a few riffs being far too similar to one another, but that's almost a non-issue since, hey, that's the overwhelming majority of death metal (and I love Cannibal Corpse, who've been recording the same style of album since Vile back in 1996). 8/10, and it's great to see these guys get back together solely for the inevitably of a new tour in support of Surgical Steel as I missed them on their "one-time reunion" tour a few years back.
 
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