WWF New Generation Thread III

[BruiserBrody]

I guess you can argue the Tyson segment could be the catalyst if not for Montreal. Vince plays up the big announcement of Tyson signing in Dec. Austin tells him he doesn't give a damn, nobody is stopping him from getting the world title. Not the doctors, not Tyson and not HBK.

Vince threatens Austin to not mess with Tyson at the Rumble or beyond and Austin defies him.

Vince had been ramping up his physical angles with Bret and Austin over the year.
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For the most part, Montreal isn't part of the boom. Late November/early December is even a bit dreary with Rude and Crush leaving too (Optics) along with Davey and Neidhart. Owen's AWOL. Shamrock isn't quite as hot as he should be and feels like a bit of a stand in challenger with Taker and Austin looming. A fat old Sarge is one of the top matches for the PPV. Tom Brandi is getting a push. The Gang Wars is kind of bleh. They've killed off the Road Warriors.

 

[Valeyard]

It's a huge part of the boom. It was what officially made Vince recognized as the owner of the company, was the departure of the biggest star of that time, and further pulled the curtain back. In the long term, it's the most important event for the company. The intrigue was massive. The gravity of the Tyson stuff was that it was officially out in the open who Vince was and he was not to be trusted. If you just do an authority figure angle, it's no different than Jack Tunney telling someone not to do something.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It’s like the Austin 3:16 promo, except with a 10x bigger effect. Yeah, smarks can easily point out that it didn’t have any immediate effect (November/December ‘97 WWF and even a lot of early ‘98 does suck!) but it was in the back of everyone’s mind (“Vince fucked over the top guy before Austin! Imagine what he will due to Austin”. during the height of the boom.

 

[BruiserBrody]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1803818890767540430

I know they had bigger fish to fry and Uncle Fred was just going to be a JTTS, but maybe they should have given him yet another gimmick change?
They could have thumbed their noses at WCW and made him Corny's new Big Bubba....since he used to be Big Bubba.

Million Dollar Corp brings him in as US Steel, the beefy capitalist of union labor!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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1993 is the weirdest (Brody: BEST!) WWE (WWF at the time) roster ever.

At least right up there with early expansion roster or post WCW roster.

 

[BruiserBrody]

WWF @ Chicago, IL – Rosemont Horizon – June 25, 1993

The Brooklyn Brawler pinned the Predator with a backbreaker

Mr. Hughes pinned Bob Backlund with a roll up and hooking the tights for leverage

Luna Vachon pinned Sensational Sherri after Doink the Clown came ringside and tripped her from the outside

WWF World Champion Yokozuna (w/ Mr. Fuji) pinned Jim Duggan in a lumbjerjack match with the Bonzai Drop after Fuji distracted Duggan; prior to the bout, Crush chased Doink the Clown back to the locker room and neither returned as scheduled lumberjacks

Owen Hart pinned Damien Demento with a roll up

Crush defeated Doink the Clown via reverse decision; Doink originally won the match via count-out after a second Doink came to ringside and hid under the ring, holding on to Crush’s leg to prevent him from getting back in the ring; the referee then reversed the decision when he saw the second Doink

Hulk Hogan & Brutus Beefcake (w/ Jimmy Hart) defeated Ted Dibiase & IRS when Hogan pinned Dibiase with the legdrop after bringing Horace Grant of the Chicago Bulls out of the crowd to help him pin Dibiase; Sgt. Slaughter was the guest referee for the bout

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Rough show for the big market. They are hoping Hogan carries the show of course. The women probably had the best match. Even Owen was saddled with a lug. Predator was Horace Hogan.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

John McAdam has talked about how the last show he went to at Boston Garden was one headlined by Money Inc Vs the Mega Maniacs with Sgt. Slaughter guest reffing. He said it barely drew 3,000 people.

I’m surprised McAdam didn’t return for Survivor Series ‘93. It’s funny to imagine that show offending his old school smark sensibilities! “Four Doinks! Give me a break! It was ridiculous!”

 

[Valeyard]

I unapologetically like the potential of the Mega Maniacs. Mid card Hogan does it for me.

 

[alkeiper]

I’m surprised McAdam didn’t return for Survivor Series ‘93. It’s funny to imagine that show offending his old school smark sensibilities! “Four Doinks! Give me a break! It was ridiculous!”

If you're going to be offended by anything that match is a good place to start.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://www.facebook.com/100064783237947/posts/871062628396504

Eh, what does that Okie know anyway, Vale?

 

[Valeyard]

The fact Borga was a horrible human being is why he's there, so I get it.

 

[BruiserBrody]

If you're going to be offended by anything that match is a good place to start.

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[BruiserBrody]

"Like Wrestling a cement truck full of barf"

 

[Valeyard]

I always liked their matches but they never seemed to click, anyway.

 

[BruiserBrody]

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In 1993, 17 year old Stephanie McMahon had a huge crush on the recently divorced Macho Man Randy Savage. One fateful night in December 1993, their hotel rooms were next to each other, and they ended up hooking up.
Vince McMahon found out and was furious and did everything he could to keep them apart. Vince took Randy off the active roster in 1994, and a few months later Macho Man was never to be seen in WWE again.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Tenacious Tyler (who I am somehow Facebook friends with!?) and Gorgeous George are about as reliable sources as Alex Jones.

Brody: So pretty good, ya?

 

[BruiserBrody]

Tenacious Tyler (who I am somehow Facebook friends with!?) and Gorgeous George are about as reliable sources as Alex Jones.

Brody: So pretty good, ya?

Had I bought the source more, I would have made it a topic.

I did make it a topic with your friends over at WrestlingClassics.

 

[Valeyard]

Vince showed him, not booking him but still using him prominently and working side by side with him each week.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Vince showed him, not booking him but still using him prominently and working side by side with him each week.

You forgot the "Pedo King" Randy Savage gimmick they ran for 2 weeks on Mania.
Poor Dink in that school boy uniform....

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Does realizing I am friends with Tenacious Tyler make me feel guilty for unfriending Brody during the fallout of the 2016 POTUS election? Slightly.

Would I accept Brody’s friend request if he sent one? Probably not.

 

[Valeyard]

I might still have Luigi Primo muted. Dude's insufferable.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

If I had known I could hide posts from selected Facebook friends in 2016, Brod Dogg would still be my friend there as well as CXF.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Enough of me and Brod’s homoerotic bromance.

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HI FANS!

I don’t even think his run was brief by that era (or any era except the modern one). He was there for two years! He was just relegated to C shows, hotlines, and hospice era Coliseum Video exclusives duty after his stint on Superstars.

 

[BruiserBrody]

Does realizing I am friends with Tenacious Tyler make me feel guilty for unfriending Brody during the fallout of the 2016 POTUS election? Slightly.

Would I accept Brody’s friend request if he sent one? Probably not.

I remember none of this and that account was nuked either way.

I don't think I want to run the risk of you commenting about Chinese Herbal Viagra on my vacation photos.

 

[Valeyard]

I really want to be convinced the Savage/Steph thing has legs but it so clearly isn't the case. Thanks to his thread, that is TK's biggest negative contribution to wrestling history.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

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Interesting they let Macho Man call this match seven months after his night of passion with the Boss’ underaged daughter at the Hampton Inn.

 

[BruiserBrody]

WrestlingClassics.

For years I figured 80% of the sleaze thread was crap.

Then 2015 was helping out at a show with Jimmy Valiant.

Buddy asked him "Mr valiant I heard this story about you and a glass table..."

Jimmy jumped up yelled "BROTHER I'm TIRED OF THE LIES AND HALF TRUTHS ABOUT ME ON THE INTERNET....... It was the Midnights that walked in not the Rock n Rolls" and Jimmy started laughing.

So either that story is true or Jimmy has been asked about it enough he has come up with a great answer.

Now if I ever meet Hacksaw Duggan I will ask about the dildo blender.

BOOGIE WOOGIE!

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[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Man, if even Jim Cornette is tongue tied when being asked about this then IDK.

Is Stephanie McMahon an anagram for Macho Man’s penis, Brod?


I feel like Lanny Poffo’s answer about it also egged him on the Tony Khans and Brody’s of the world.

We’ll have to wait to find out the real answer when DJ Vlad interviews Vince in a year or two.

 

[Valeyard]

If Cornette knew he'd have said so years ago, just like everyone else.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Why didn’t nobody talk about this rumor in the early-mid ‘00s before Stephanie was on Howard Stern? Howard would have had the Spauldings to ask her if she got the Slim Jim.