They aren't, they are doing both. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...iden-early-august-ahead-convention-rcna162320 They are doing an early virtual roll call to avoid issues in Ohio and then the normal convention.
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Ohio changed their law earlier this year which rendered the virtual unnecessary but the Dems were sticking with it for some reason. Pushing it back was a new development. That, Biden saying a medical situation could make him step away, and then being diagnosed with Covid (his third time, I think) all happened within a day or 2.
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So basically they don't trust the Ohio GOP to not try any funny business, which is prob a wise move.
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Yeah, he got COVID in 2022 and a rebound case that same year. It wouldn't surprise me if he drops out using COVID as the excuse (and later gets a rebound case again).
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I don't trust any of them but Ohio is particularly bad.
It is probably reasonable to think the virtual postponement could be lining up a change. It's frustrating to see the republicans enjoying the fruits of the efforts of so many Dems and the media over the past several weeks.
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I've wondered if the lingering cough, etc, could be symptoms of Long Covid. To get a third case, at his age, is not good. The NATO speech reassured me that Biden is more than capable of successfully fulfilling the duties of office but, yeah, after the last 3 weeks, this bout of Covid could have him leaning towards stepping down.
It is crazy how little respect or attention his accomplishments have received. So much of what he's done has positively impacted people and groups that are rarely the ones being helped. And I still think ending the war in Afghanistan was the right thing to do. I know the GOP and the TV people didn't like it but, imo, we didn't need to be doing that for a third decade.
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BREAKING: Top Biden Aides Believe President Will Drop Out of Race, Axios Reports
President Joe Biden could be dropping his reelection campaign as soon as this weekend, several top Democrats told Axios.
www.mediaite.com
While a lot of the media reporting continues to be tail-wagging-the-dog stuff or outright lying (there've been instances of making up quotes from congresspeople, etc), there is also an increasing vibe of where there's smoke there's fire.
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Where were you last week when I was talking people off the ledge on here?
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I was offline a few days while moving across the big river for grad school. I missed the stuff with our friend, Kamala. But I was here for several of your thoughtful posts during the ongoing 24/7 media pile-on. You were the wrestling message board equivalent of Rebecca Solnit and I mean that as a huge compliment.
I'm glad this is almost over
Biden Pressure Grows: People Close To President Believe He’s Opened Up To Dropping Out, Report Says
Biden is facing increasing pressure from onetime allies like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi to reconsider his 2024 bid—and some Democrats think Biden could drop out as early as this weekend.
www.forbes.com
Could be as early as this weekend.
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Facing a tough re-election bid, Democratic Sen. Jon Tester calls on Biden to bow out
Tester, of Montana, is the second senator to call for President Joe Biden to exit the 2024 race, saying: “I’ve never been afraid to stand up to him when he is wrong.”
www.nbcnews.com
*tomorrow
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Barack Obama ‘says Biden must seriously consider stepping down’
Former president is thought to have spoken to his successor only once since the disastrous Trump TV debate as reports suggest he is active in attempts to replace him
www.thetimes.com
Damn, the big dog has spoken
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While I haven't donated to Biden since he went to Ukraine (an actual tough guy move that Trump could only do on scripted tv), I continue to get a lot of texts and emails asking for more or do a survey, etc. Today one arrived saying that Biden is considering dropping out and asking if I would support VP Harris.
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It's over. I'll be really shocked if he doesn't pull out by the end of the weekend.
This Hogan stuff has come across really bad among most conservatives I know, just really sad.
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When I was bartending, so many of the trumpers would go on and on about how much they hate wrestling. Then I'd put it on the TV and watch them sit there enthralled. These people can lie all they want but the celebrity thing, and anything adjacent to it like Hogan, is their lifeblood.
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Secluded in Rehoboth, Biden Stews at Allies’ Pressure to Drop Out of the Race
As he recovers from Covid, the president has grown resentful toward Democratic congressional leaders and former President Barack Obama.
This is an interesting article. It shows-among other things-Biden’s bitterness towards Obama and Pelosi, and gives a possible reason as to why he hasn’t stepped down.
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"One day after the Republican National Convention, new public calls for Biden to drop out from a dozen lawmakers – including Democratic Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico and California Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a close ally to former Speaker Nancy Pelosi – grew the list of congressional Democrats to more than 30."
"Rep. Greg Landsman, an Ohio Democrat, told Dana Bash on CNN’s “Inside Politics” Friday that it was time for Biden to drop out. “Passing the torch is the right thing to do,” Landsman said. “That is the way to ensure that Donald Trump doesn’t win the presidency.”
And four other House Democrats – Reps. Jared Huffman and Mark Pocan; a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Chuy Garcia; and a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, Marc Veasey – released a joint statement Friday, using the same “pass the torch” rhetoric."
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Yeah, this campaign will be better than Biden’s.
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GOOD. Take off the gloves and tape up your fists. SHOW SOME FUCKING GUTS.
We will ignore that this was 5 years ago but the idealism still remains.
Apparently she doesn’t want to be seen with him in any context.