Kamala's Random WCW Bullshit thread

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Me and IIRC @Laz talked about this last time Darsow was brought up but he was only 40 when his WCW run ended. How the hell did we not get a Darsow cameo in TNA during the weekly PPV era!?

 

[Brocklock]

Darsow hanging out with Shark Boy and D-Ray 3000 in 2004 would've been great.

 

[Valeyard]

Yeah you'd think TNA would've been the one company who still wanted to run Demolition/LOD or something.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I feel like early TNA would have been more into The Masked Superstar showing up to support Dusty Rhodes and Team Tradition then getting blindsided by Krusher Khrushchev.

 

[Valeyard]

They had so much restraint. In hindsight it would've been great to have Darsow fill in for Nikita when Nikita left, just because it fits sportz entertainment so well.

Masked Superstar, New Jack, and Shark Boy vs Triple X could've happened!

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1395799794543628289

This is why I've lowkey become a huge fan of WCW era Bret the last few years. He's just confused and trying to get his bag. Who can't relate?

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1395892074520719362

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396589913718546434

Paging @Laz

 

[Big Papa Paegan]

I remember that and thinking how awesome their program would be with Jett working as a super over face instead of a mildly over heel.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396879695405330435

Mfw I win the Hot Dog Eating Contest at the TSM Las Vegas Meetup in 2022.

 

[Valeyard]

2001 WCW is so frustrating. Just knowing how cheap it was and how things could've gone, even with no sign of TV. I hated WCW like poison as a fan but didn't realize how much I needed them until too late. The Magnificent Seven could have all invested, man.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think the thing that piques my curiosity and confuses me the most is that they were going to completely start over new with the May '01 PPV. Bischoff is a adamant that they weren't going to be continuing any previous storylines so even if WWF hadn't bought WCW, that Spring Break '01 Nitro would've been a finale of sorts.

That might be revisionist history from Eric Bischoff cause Idk if they would have done the Magnificent Seven puts out every babyface setup if they knew there was no potential for a comeback. But it is WCW so Idk.

 

[Valeyard]

Big Bang would've been a really interesting show. I guess in my head it's always been a successful relaunch where they get TV within the year and are the solid number two for ten years, but the room for error would've been so huge that it'd be the final final final death.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I'm curious to know what RVD: Top guy in '01/'02 WCW (with Joey Styles & Jerry Lawler calling the action) would've looked/sounded like.

 

[Brocklock]

It's just hard to imagine RVD really succeeding with guys like Hogan still around and in prominent positions. Same with Corino who was gonna be one of the top heels iirc. It still sounds like a wonderful idea, but nearly all the old guys that were around in 98-00 were still going to be around in some way.

 

[Valeyard]

That's the thing. I think RVD, Goldberg, O'Haire, and Corino would be a solid upper/top card but I don't think Bischoff would pull the trigger the right way. "The NEW WCW! It's time for Kevin Nash vs Goldberg!" and all the people anyone wants to root for doesn't touch the glass ceiling.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It's just hard to imagine RVD really succeeding with guys like Hogan still around and in prominent positions. Same with Corino who was gonna be one of the top heels iirc. It still sounds like a wonderful idea, but nearly all the old guys that were around in 98-00 were still going to be around in some way.

From what Bischoff says (which take with a grain of salt), they would have been forced to reduce Hogan, Goldberg, and NASH types to part time roles in the Fusient owned WCW due to budgeting reasons. For that reason, I kind of wonder if WCW had lived if it would've been like modern day WWE with a bunch of guys grinding it out day to day that would've gotten overshadowed by the past stars who showed up 3 or 4 times a year.

 

[Valeyard]

Hogan and Nash would still be in the WWF by February. There's no way those contracts could've been renewed and those two more than pretty much anyone ever know their worth. Hogan would do his "show up when everyone knows the ratings will be up" thing and I could see Nash sitting out at least half the year because fuckin' Nash.

If Sting's around in some capacity, he and DDP would be all about making guys in the meantime. It's kind of weird because there'd either be enough or too few known guys to put people over. I just want DDP/Corino, though.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah. It's inevitable that Hogan was going to end up back in WWF. He was in desperate need of redemption. Especially after Russo shat all over him at Bash at the Beach '00. He wasn't going to find that in WCW and WCW wouldn't have been able to capitalize the '80s nostalgia craze of the '00s like Vince could.

 

[Brocklock]

Corino was so good with Dusty, that he might of got some of the best work out of some of the other older legends in years. I could see a Corino/Piper feud being weirdly compelling. Or Corino/Macho if he would of came back.

 

[Valeyard]

Corino was the next Tully.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Bischoff seemed awfully assured that he could've gotten every back for the scaled back Fusient owned WCW but I feel like the only main eventers that would've been loyal to Sleazy E are Sting, DDP, maybe Booker T, and maybe Goldberg.

Business' popularity nosediving in the early '00s was inevitable and I feel like WWE would have still tried to scoop Hogan, Outsiders, and Big Poppa Pump in '02/'03 regardless to boost their ratings.

Now that I'm thinking about how Thunder may have moved to FX and how we were a few years away from a WCW/It's Always Sunny crossover. Although Piper already guest starred so maybe the alternate history wouldn't be that much different.

 

[Valeyard]

Hogan, Hall, and Nash would be WWF for sure. Would have played out exactly the same, too.

DDP and Sting would be lifers. Luger would have no choice but to stay, same for Jarrett. I mean I think it'd be WWA/TNA 2004ish solid enough roster.

I've always wondered how long the tape library could've bought them time. Mass produce and advertise a Best Of Stunning Steve Austin or Cactus Jack DVDs or something, at least to sustain some presence while they went dark. I'd have bought a bunch for sure.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I've always wondered how long the tape library could've bought them time. Mass produce and advertise a Best Of Stunning Steve Austin or Cactus Jack DVDs or something, at least to sustain some presence while they went dark. I'd have bought a bunch for sure.

On the recent 83 Weeks episodes on '01 WCW, it really seemed like Eric Bischoff couldn't see the forest for the trees RE: the home video market in the '00s. If he is to be believed (which again, it's a huge considering he's the source), he foresaw the home video market crashing but his old man karate tournament concussion brain thought it happened 10 years earlier than it did. He kept saying on one episode that DVD industry was already dying in '01 which is almost the polar opposite of the truth. I feel like DVDs were just STARTING to boom in '01.

Considering DVD releases may have saved WWE's ass in the mid-late '00s, I don't doubt that they could have served same purpose for WCW.

 

[Valeyard]

Yeah getting a DVD player was a big deal still and the WWF started putting them out a year earlier. I know for a while too they put stuff out on both DVD and VHS when VHS was being phased out. That's literally the opposite of how a WWF vs WCW video release war should've been. Could've had Turner Home Video HD bonus packed Slamboree 2000 or something and it would've still sold.

He always came off like the tape library was more of an inconvenience than a big deal. Just thinking of all the money tape traders would've spent on remastered shows is frustrating on several levels.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

He always came off like the tape library was more of an inconvenience than a big deal. Just thinking of all the money tape traders would've spent on remastered shows is frustrating on several levels.

Bischoff seems easily bored by nostalgia unless it's positive experiences in his own personal history. It seems only since his last WWE run went kaput so quickly did he realize, "Oh I guess all people want from me is to talk about the '90s."

 

[Valeyard]

I don't find him very interesting, personally. I love hearing him talk about the AWA days but that's mostly it. He just is so naturally slimy, Dana White style.

I remember waiting for that HHH DVD to come out because it had Flair/Steamboat and I never thought it'd see it in that quality again.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396981240864124933

 

[alfdogg]

Yeah, about that title match...

 

[BruiserBrody]

Corino was so good with Dusty, that he might of got some of the best work out of some of the other older legends in years. I could see a Corino/Piper feud being weirdly compelling. Or Corino/Macho if he would of came back.

"You cut the brakes on Magnum TA's porche!"