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I honestly think the best solution in January ‘00 was to do the surprise Booker T Title Win six months earlier.
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That's pretty much what I mean. Tank would solve no problems nor cause any and would definitely put someone over. A shitty Booker/Tank match leading into the year would mean nothing and couldn't hurt the ratings in any way. Then you bust out the usual suspects and give Scott Steiner the hardest push since Goldberg.
DDP getting the shock Luger reign is one of my weird what-ifs. Right call was made but he could've fit that role so well.
DDP getting the shock Luger reign is one of my weird what-ifs. Right call was made but he could've fit that role so well.
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nWo Muta is one of those things that seems like it should've been cooler than it was.
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The Great American Bash (1991) - Wikipedia
In honor in JR covering it, I can say that despite it's terrible rep, a just about to turn 9 year old Brody was very excited by the build:
- Unless I'm conflating it with another PPV, I believe we got a Flair/Luger package with all their other fuck finish matches to build to the steel cage stip Luger was getting.
- The Rock and Roll Express explode!
- Sting avenging himself from multiple attacks from Koloff. (I very much recall watching a 10 man tag match on TV where IIRC the faces and heels were announced back and forth or something, and when Koloff realized Sting's music was playing as the Russian was walking down the aisle. He stopped and Pearl Harbor'd Sting. Sting was taken out of the match and PN News replaced him...eventully. Sting ran in for the DQ a few mins later.
- El Gigante/OMG was basically Kong vs Godzilla to me.
- I'm sure the idea of a scaffold match blew my mind.
- Also loved me some Yellow Dog/Pillman.
It's kind of funny that I can recall the Diamond Studd working TV matches, but I have no actual recollections of OZ, but I would have seen him.
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Mean Gene is me when Slayer and CWM suggest I watch puro other than NJPW.
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Man, Summer of '99 WCW would have been SO much better if we had gotten Yokozuna being allowed to publicly display his hip hop fandom.
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This week's Between the Sheets pod covered the build to Hogan/Flair 1 in WCW. One bit was WCW was contacting the prison Mike Tyson was locked up in to try and get permission to film him and Hogan training.
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Want to see Flair team up with his 2 biggest rivals at once? Ok:
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I recall Tombstone and Big Al but I do not recall 911 being "Sledge Hammer".
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Absolutely insane that a year later JCP was begging Ted Turner to buy them to avoid bankruptcy.
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The Great American Bash (1991) - Wikipedia
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In honor in JR covering it, I can say that despite it's terrible rep, a just about to turn 9 year old Brody was very excited by the build:
- Unless I'm conflating it with another PPV, I believe we got a Flair/Luger package with all their other fuck finish matches to build to the steel cage stip Luger was getting.
- The Rock and Roll Express explode!
- Sting avenging himself from multiple attacks from Koloff. (I very much recall watching a 10 man tag match on TV where IIRC the faces and heels were announced back and forth or something, and when Koloff realized Sting's music was playing as the Russian was walking down the aisle. He stopped and Pearl Harbor'd Sting. Sting was taken out of the match and PN News replaced him...eventully. Sting ran in for the DQ a few mins later.
- El Gigante/OMG was basically Kong vs Godzilla to me.
- I'm sure the idea of a scaffold match blew my mind.
- Also loved me some Yellow Dog/Pillman.
It's kind of funny that I can recall the Diamond Studd working TV matches, but I have no actual recollections of OZ, but I would have seen him.
I think they recycled the clips they'd used a year before for the Flair-Luger cage match at Capitol Combat. I agree with Flair on almost every thing during the Herd era (wrestling booking wise) but he should've put Luger over for a month or two in early 1990. And wanting to zoom the title to Windham in 1991 didn't make a lot of sense. Windham was in the upper half of the card as a heel at that point and had been back with the Horsemen for a year. It seemed like Luger's heel turn took a while to get off the ground after that Bash. And I don't think Windham was really set as a babyface until Cruncher Zbyszko smashed his hand a few months later.
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And they chose to put the title on a guy who apparently was rapidly running out of dates to have to work.
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Came across my Apter mag reviewing the above 8 man mega match.
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Came across my Apter mag reviewing the above 8 man mega match.
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I have that issue too. Surreal seeing 3,000 people at the SuperDome or some dinky ass AWA show being compared alongside WrestleMania III.
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The Survivor Series edition is almost worse as that really does have an AWA Thanksgiving show to compare to so the bright WWF show in a full arena is next to pics of DJ Pederson armbarring Kevin Kelly in dark lil arena.
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I was thinking at work last night that at the time of that 8-man was roughly the same time frame as Dibiase showing up in WWF as a babyface.
So I debated what would happen had he chosen to go w/ Crockett.
- Babyface Dibiase shows up on TV and gets right into with Flair, have Dibiase show the clips from Flair and Dibiase's infamous angle with Dick Murdoch where a blood soaked Dibiase almost beat Flair despite pouring out an alarming amount of plasma. Dibiase gets hotshotted the belt in Sept instead of Ronnie Garvin and he gets the placeholder spot up to Starrcade. Flair can then go on to work Luger, Sting and Dibiase over 1988.
- Option 2 is similar, but Dibiase waits until Starrcade to be crowned the champ, he then gets to hold it until the Bash where Flair gets it back to set up the money angle with Luger which would be postponed until then,
Option 3, Heel Dibiase would almost have to find a spot in the 4 Horsemen, or risk getting lost in the shuffle. You can't really FFWD the Luger break up angle as he litterally just won the US title in the Bash series in July of 87. I guess a placeholder feud with Barry Windham would rock. In this case, he may as well stay on the UWF brand and JCP can try and actually keep the 2 groups separate for far longer than they really did.
UWF staying in its own lane is a whole different fantasy booking idea....
What would y'all do?
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I was thinking at work last night that at the time of that 8-man was roughly the same time frame as Dibiase showing up in WWF as a babyface.
So I debated what would happen had he chosen to go w/ Crockett.
- Babyface Dibiase shows up on TV and gets right into with Flair, have Dibiase show the clips from Flair and Dibiase's infamous angle with Dick Murdoch where a blood soaked Dibiase almost beat Flair despite pouring out an alarming amount of plasma. Dibiase gets hotshotted the belt in Sept instead of Ronnie Garvin and he gets the placeholder spot up to Starrcade. Flair can then go on to work Luger, Sting and Dibiase over 1988.
- Option 2 is similar, but Dibiase waits until Starrcade to be crowned the champ, he then gets to hold it until the Bash where Flair gets it back to set up the money angle with Luger which would be postponed until then,
Option 3, Heel Dibiase would almost have to find a spot in the 4 Horsemen, or risk getting lost in the shuffle. You can't really FFWD the Luger break up angle as he litterally just won the US title in the Bash series in July of 87. I guess a placeholder feud with Barry Windham would rock. In this case, he may as well stay on the UWF brand and JCP can try and actually keep the 2 groups separate for far longer than they really did.
UWF staying in its own lane is a whole different fantasy booking idea....
What would y'all do?
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It would be transparent as hell but Dibiase taking over Magnum's spot would've been nice, if he had to be a face. He's the perfect guy to turn on Dusty for some reason too. Depending on how it goes he'd either end up in the WWF by '89 with Arn and Tully or go to Japan full time like Dr. Death making big money with Hansen.
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I remember Erik Watts as a wacky movez guy in late '99 WCW. He occasionally teamed with Hacksaw Jim Duggan cause...Idk, he used to work for his dad?
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Hardcore Hak is so damn weird.
Weirder yet, I think if he had showed up a year earlier or a year later, he might've worked in WCW tbh. He probably would have slid under the radar in the overstuffed '98 roster and blended in nicely with the DDP/Raven's Flock midcard stuff. And I feel like Russo would have loved having Sandman on the roster. Burnt out '99 Bischoff was in no mood to put up with this stuff though.
Weirder yet, I think if he had showed up a year earlier or a year later, he might've worked in WCW tbh. He probably would have slid under the radar in the overstuffed '98 roster and blended in nicely with the DDP/Raven's Flock midcard stuff. And I feel like Russo would have loved having Sandman on the roster. Burnt out '99 Bischoff was in no mood to put up with this stuff though.
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Best Hardcore Hak story is still him wrestling Goldberg sloshed out of his mind to the point where Bill had to deadlift him into the Jackhammer. Truly a golden moment.
Actually, come to think of it, it shows off a very real and dangerous problem so maybe #CancelEpic
Actually, come to think of it, it shows off a very real and dangerous problem so maybe #CancelEpic
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Goldberg Vs Drunk Hak is legit one of the 5-10 best Goldberg matches though.
Vim and vitriol that Bischoff talks about the hardcore division with on '99-'00 episodes of 83 Weeks is so weird. It's like "If you hated it THAT much, you probably could have just not had it, bro." I think that was part of his downfall maybe. He tried too hard to try and appeal to everybody.
Vim and vitriol that Bischoff talks about the hardcore division with on '99-'00 episodes of 83 Weeks is so weird. It's like "If you hated it THAT much, you probably could have just not had it, bro." I think that was part of his downfall maybe. He tried too hard to try and appeal to everybody.