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The only guy who could get a good match out of solo Patera in 1990 is Bobby Eaton. I'd be real into that.
 

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I feel like Flair Vs Patera in '90 would have been better than Flair Vs JYD in '90 but that's definition of damning with faint praise. Weren't Flair and Patera in the same training class at Verne Gagne's training camp too? For some reason, I could easily imagine Tony Schiavone and/or JR yelling about HOW THEY TRAINED TOGETHER!

GD IT! Why am I talking myself into Ken Patera going to WCW? I'm spending too much time talking here to @BruiserBrody
 

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[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
Without looking at wrestlingdata, I'd be surprised if Patera worked more than 10 dates for the AWA. He came in as filler after SuperClash's fallout gutted the AWA roster yet again, and worked for a few months at best when the AWA was only doing TV and a very rare high school paid show.

Off the top of my head I'd say he was there from Feb to June-ish.

Patera would have made sense going to WCW in early 89 since George Scott was familiar with his work from MACW.
We missed out on a best of 200 match series with broken Patera defending America from the washed Iron Sheik. Print that money!
Let's bring back used up Jimmy Snuka too while we're enjoying a 1978 MACW reunion.
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I feel like Flair Vs Patera in '90 would have been better than Flair Vs JYD in '90 but that's definition of damning with faint praise. Weren't Flair and Patera in the same training class at Verne Gagne's training camp too? For some reason, I could easily imagine Tony Schiavone and/or JR yelling about HOW THEY TRAINED TOGETHER!

GD IT! Why am I talking myself into Ken Patera going to WCW? I'm spending too much time talking here to @BruiserBrody
Patera was training for the Olympics or what ever when he lived with Flair, who I believe was in Verne's class at the time.
 

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Let's bring back used up Jimmy Snuka too while we're enjoying a 1978 MACW reunion.
Somehow though, he got signed by WWF, presumably because they didn't want to Turner to sign all of their stars from 1983. Maybe same explanation for Big John Studd's random ass comeback in '89 as well.

Ykw '83 WWF star might have actually been good in that era of WCW...Don Muraco. I guess he also had a cup of coffee in late '80s AWA.
 

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Muraco in the early '80s could fit anywhere, I think. Like he could've been a better Butch Reed. He'd be great in Mid-South or WCCW to me because he'd be allowed to just eat people alive. Muraco as part of Devastation Inc. feels right.

Muraco in '89-90 WCW doesn't feel like it would work to me. Bring Orton with him and let them do some loops with the RNR, though. Match made in heaven.
 

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[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
Somehow though, he got signed by WWF, presumably because they didn't want to Turner to sign all of their stars from 1983. Maybe same explanation for Big John Studd's random ass comeback in '89 as well.

Ykw '83 WWF star might have actually been good in that era of WCW...Don Muraco. I guess he also had a cup of coffee in late '80s AWA.
Don Muraco's the 1972 AWA Rookie of the Year! Verne wanted to put the strap on him after Lawler, but the WON says Muraco no showed the TV and house show shots after Verne refused his 500 dollar a shot request. Sheik quit the AWA at the same time for not getting 300 dollars a shot. Then a few weeks later the AWA tried to book him again vs Zenk in a Number one contender match on TV and Muraco no showed again.
Muraco also stopped showing up in Stampede after a few shots (even though they made him champ). Ed Walen told the viewers that Dan Spivey injured Muraco (I do not believe Spivey was even in Stampede) and Muraco was moving on to the AWA and the title is vacant.

The WON reports in May 88 that Studd made a country demo tape and was trying to land a record deal!

Studd was talking to the NWA in December (along with Tommy Rich and Orton) about coming in.
Dave says Studd quit after his Mania 5 pay off was "only" 8500 and his weekly pay offs were 3000 bucks since his B show headline feud with Andre was bombing.

OMG.... Oct 89 "Afa and Sika are running Philly with Studd and JYD as their main event opponents! Please tell me this happened!!!!!!
 

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Big John Studd actually had a fairly extensive indies run after his '89 WWF run, usually in Killer Kowalski's promotions in New England (oh man if only I'd been a wrestling fan as a two year old). Although the only thing I can find of his on Cagematch is a match that he did for NAWA, the indie promotion that George Scott ran...which might as well have been the mirror universe '89-'90 WCW.

And I think BJS would be the one guy who Ric Flair would probably have a worse match with than JYD. Some would probably say 1990 Andre but I feel like he was a smart enough worker that he could have made standing in the corner for 10 minutes while Flair somehow simultaneously peacocks and acts deathly afraid of him be marginally entertaining.
 

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I probably watched this live, but I don't recall details anymore....Did they let Bret "shoot" on Vince at all? Was this the basic "I was screwed, so I'm going to make sure Larry Z isn't..." type of thing?

Seems like an easy blunder to not have any WCW Bret shirt ready for him to wear to start making the merch money. Then again, they signed the WWF World champ and made him a ref instead of letting him work _______ to draw some money on the biggest card (main event wise at least) WCW had in at least 18 months or so.

I've completely blanked on how they managed to go from Bret vs the NWO (complete with screwing over Hogan's cheating plot at Starrcade) to Bret vs Flair at Souled Out.

1998 WCW was a mess. By that point I probably wasn't watching Nitro very often (no cable, had to go by my cousin) until at least Summer when I could spend more time by my brothers. Worldwide probably didn't come on here until the 1998 ratings boom made our local Fox channel show it and Jakked/Metal/Shotgun whatever back to back on Sat after MLB baseball. DAMN YOU EXTRA INNINGS!!!
 

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IIRC and tbh the stretch between Starrcade ‘97 and Goldberg getting white hot in the spring is a blur, there wasn’t that much build to Bret Hart Vs Ric Flair in 1998. Ric Flair got pissed over Bret Hart saying he was the best there ever was and they had a verbal tiff on a Nitro. It didn’t even get to main event Souled Out ‘98!
 

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Flynn would be such a darling now.
It's too bad Jerry Lynn retired before Janela started running Spring Break events cause we'd definitely get Jerry Flynn teaming and/or facing Jerry Lynn. I'm mildly surprised '02-'04 TNA didn't bring in Jerry Lynn for a cup of coffee. Only thing it looks like he did post WCW was a run in Puerto Rico
 

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Some A1 Serious Angry Tenay @Laz and @Valeyard .

I am both extremely glad and extremely bummed we never got a Tenay match.

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[quote author=BRODY link=topic=7317.msg606823#msg6
Rough N Ready predated the Minnesota Wrecking Crew/Beverly Brothers C & D show reunion. Cagematch says that Wayne Bloom didn't work regularly for WCW until 1998 (although he had a pair of tryout matches in the Fall/Summer of '97) when Dick Slater was long gone. I remember Wayne Bloom's WCW run lasting a lot longer than it did. It was only three and a half months (January to May '98). I guess he had better things to do than work WCW C/D shows.

In the process of looking up Wayne Bloom's Cagematch, I found this '97 Minnesota indy card.
That Wayne Bloom/Ken Patera and JW Storm/Nailz double main event would inspire some @BruiserBrody heavy breathing. I can't even imagine how bad a 1997 Ken Patera match would be.
MERRY XMAS!


Ken Patera is the back up muscle for the Mighty Maccabee in this classic that Mystery Titans Theater will be foisting upon youtube sometime next week (live stream Saturday) (I own the DVDs so we can watch them at TSM con 2022)
 

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They air Star Wars all the god damn time before Rampage, so it works
 

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I guess it just goes to show you that TNT hadn't completely shaken their "Good ol' boy" boomer image by '95. Hell, Joe Bob Briggs (...and WCW) still aired there until the '00s.
 
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