Late Night Talk Show Discussion

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Chelsea Handler Is Ready to Return to Late-Night: ‘There Are Too Many White Men Doing the Same Job’ (EXCLUSIVE)

This week, Chelsea Handler stepped in as guest host on “Jimmy Kimmel Live.” The comedian brought her A-game, and as the news cycle would have it, Handler was tasked with handling the Su…

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White men's opinions are irrelevant in 2022 but middle aged white women's opinions apparently? Thumbs leaning up.

 

[Valeyard]

Inside job because she knows she will promote the stereotype of women not being funny.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

No one here (self included) probably was a huge fan but Chelsea Lately probably was the last late night talk show to break new stand up comedians. Colbert, Fallon, and Kimmel have shuffled stand up to the side so much that it's hard for anyone to break out.

 

[Valeyard]

Tiktok my fellow fam.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Twitterverse is speculating that Desus & Mero had a falling out and might be breaking up.

First PnP now this? Bad year for Outer Borough based duos

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Full Frontal with Samantha Bee has ended so, uh, now all of the late night hosts are white dudes except for Trevor Noah, right?

That Chelsea Handler comeback might happen and we'll start the cycle all over again!

 

[Brocklock]

I didn't realize Full Frontal was still on. I watched a little bit when it started, then lost interest after the 2016 election. Her shtick was wearing a little thin as well.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yeah, it seemed like a relic of the early Trump era. People are definitely not reacting like it was taken away in its prime like when Desus & Mero broke up last week.

I'm moderately surprised TBS didn't cancel it when Conan ended last year. It stuck out like a sore thumb amongst the reruns, AEW, and baseball.

RIP era of TBS trying to produce talk shows too, I guess.

 

[Hawk 34]

It was all downhill when they took George Lopez away from us.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

ABC has renewed Jimmy Kimmel Live for three more years.

If you want to feel old, JKL will celebrate its 20th anniversary in 4 months.

Jimmy Kimmel being the oldest kid on the block of late night will never fail to seem weird. Tbh, Idk if I see Colbert or Fallon matching his run. I feel like the days of multi decade runs in late night might be winding down.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

Colbert has had a Late Night show since 2005 though. Comedy Central might not be Network but Colbert Report was very successful and arguably far more influential than any of the network shows.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Kimmel's still been on almost three years longer than Colbert even if you include the Comedy Central show.

I could see Colbert bowing out in 2025, when he hits 20 years of being a late night host and 10 years of hosting The Late Show. It's weird that he's that close to the 10 year anniversary since it seems like he just started.

I don't see Jimmy Fallon's liver being able to handle 12 more years of The Tonight Show lol.

I just have a hard time seeing any of the current generation hosting into their late 60s like Letterman and Carson.

 

[cobainwasmurdered]

I hope not because they're already really stale and boring. I'm a huge Colbert fan in general but I stopped watching the show during the start of the pandemic. He just isn't the same on Network. He can't really let loose. He occasionally shows sparks and I've seen some clips since then that show some good moments. He'd be much better off taking time off like Stewart did and finding a new role for himself.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

I think everybody wants some new blood in late night. Or just something entirely different. Seriously, no one under the age of 50 besides me and a few other weirdos gives af about the Tonight Show format. I think late night's in desperate need of new ideas.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Trevor Noah announces that he's leaving The Daily Show With Trevor Noah

Trevor Noah announces that he's leaving The Daily Show With Trevor Noah

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Trevor Noah knows what I am talking about.

 

[Hawk 34]

Trevor Noah announces that he's leaving The Daily Show With Trevor Noah

Trevor Noah announces that he's leaving The Daily Show With Trevor Noah

www.avclub.com

Trevor Noah knows what I am talking about.

My man Trevor just found better things with his life than a tv show

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575581093872672770

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Today marks the 60th anniversary of the first episode of The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

As Trevor Noah Exits, Comedy Central Finds Itself in Crisis Mode

'The Daily Show' host’s shocking departure leaves the brand in an unfunny place, lacking vision for the streaming era under leadership that partners claim is more interested in squeezing margins.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Apparently, Trevor Noah leaving The Daily Show is related to Comedy Central wanting to remove all non South Park related original programming.

At one of his first all-hands meetings at Comedy Central, McCarthy allegedly was asked what his favorite show was, and, according to one employee present, he said he liked watching CNN. “He couldn’t think of one TV show,” offers the still incredulous source.

Seems like exactly the opposite of someone who should be running a comedy network!

 

[Gary]

As Trevor Noah Exits, Comedy Central Finds Itself in Crisis Mode

'The Daily Show' host’s shocking departure leaves the brand in an unfunny place, lacking vision for the streaming era under leadership that partners claim is more interested in squeezing margins.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Apparently, Trevor Noah leaving The Daily Show is related to Comedy Central wanting to remove all non South Park related original programming.


Seems like exactly the opposite of someone who should be running a comedy network!

I think Paramount deciding to make most of their comedy material (the "South Park" specials, the new "Beavis and Butthead" movie and even a new season of "Reno 911") to streaming was already proof they stopped caring about Comedy Central. Even MTV gets more attention nowadays.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

It's basically turned into MTV with SLIGHTLY more scripted original content.

I can't even remember the last time someone had a Comedy Central special. Probably Roy Wood Jr but even most Daily Show correspondents (or the host himself as that article mentioned) take their specials to Netflix or somewhere else.

Also I really hope Roy Wood Jr is the next TDS host. I think he has perfect sensibility for that job.

 

[Valeyard]

Best way forward is to go back.

Comedy specials from the beginning of the medium to last week
Mean-spirited Kilborn-era Daily Show*
South Park
Getting the rights to MST3K, SNL, and the British Whose Line.
Lure Attel back for another run of Insomniac
Pulp fuckin Comics
Any stupid game show because they rule

*they genuinely should throw money at Marc Maron or Conan for taped podcast content for late night.

 

[strummer]

I'd fuckin mark if they got the rights to .SNL again. Been 20 damn years.

 

[Valeyard]

They're the only channel that used them properly. Can't remember a time I've laughed harder unexpectedly than the first time I saw Eddie Murphy talkin' about killing his landlord at like ten in the morning when I was home sick from school.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

SNL reruns from Comedy Central to E! coincided with the most horrible period of adolescence. What made it even worse is it made current SNL episodes somehow decide to cater to the E! audience, which led to Jessica Simpson & Nick Lachey, Olsen Twins, and Paris Hilton hosting and those dumb paparazzi sketches. Ugh.

Only good thing about SNL on E! is that there was a weird 6 month to a year period where they only had the rights to the first five seasons so that was where I first got to see some of the original cast. By the time I really started getting into SNL reruns in the early '00s, Comedy Central mostly aired '90s stuff with the occasional Eddie Murphy marathon.

I remember E! airing a lot of Season 5, which is still one of low key weirder SNL seasons. "Harry Shearer? Paul Shaffer in sketches? PETER Aykroyd!?"

 

[BruiserBrody]

It's basically turned into MTV with SLIGHTLY more scripted original content.

I can't even remember the last time someone had a Comedy Central special. Probably Roy Wood Jr but even most Daily Show correspondents (or the host himself as that article mentioned) take their specials to Netflix or somewhere else.

Also I really hope Roy Wood Jr is the next TDS host. I think he has perfect sensibility for that job.

You should see the reaction when I tell my hillbilly brethren about them having a skit called "CP Time"

 

[Valeyard]

Air punching?

 

[BUTT]

I may have made this post before, but since Web 3.0 doesn't allow you to search forums, I can't verify, so here goes: Does anyone else remember the late-Saturday/early-Sunday morning SNL rerun? Was this even a thing in markets outside of mine? In the early 2000s, at 2AM, an hour after that week's current SNL had concluded, my NBC affiliate (this was during a time when I was getting both WNBC and Wilkes-Barre's WBRE so I don't remember which one, but I think it was the latter) would air an old complete episode of SNL, usually from the late 80s or early 90s. It was the only chance to view the 90-minute version of the episodes I had seen butchered by Comedy Central. My favorite was when the Skid Row episode, which I had never seen on CC, came up in the rotation. It was right after the live episode where Bon Jovi was musical guest (2001) so it was a pretty big night for young SJK.

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

Yep. I think they lasted until the mid-late '00s cause I definitely remember taping them when I was in high school. It's the only place I remember seeing Ebersol era episodes.

 

[strummer]

Yep, Snl Classics I think it was called. I didn't get it in my market which pissed me off

 

[Cackling Co Pilot Kamala]

According to the SNL Wiki, looks like it aired between 1998 and 2006 so my memory isn't off for once.

I thought the NBC News bulletin about Princess Di's car accident interrupted an SNL Classics broadcast but considering it happened in late summer (and that SNL Classic didn't start airing until a year after she died), it was probably just a normal SNL rerun!

There we go.