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muzz said:
If you're dominating the first 45 seconds, you probably tired yourself out. Then you stagger around like Sylvia before getting one hit KO'd.
I've considered that as a possibility. It's either that or I'm leaving myself open and getting caught with a counter. But it's happened three straight fights and is starting to piss me off.
 

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Matt Young said:
Which difficulty level?
Beginner. As I said, it's starting to piss me off, and I've yet to lose in exhibition mode with the established fighters so I have to think my CAF sucks
 
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Your CAF does suck when you start out. But you're facing equally shitty opponents.
 

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Obi Chris Kenobi said:
He really does his best to try and make you stumble with all these sudden matches he springs on you. On my next play through in another weight class, I'm going to tell him to fuck himself and not take as many promo ups and just train like a beast.

That's basically all I did with my new welterweight. I went, "fuck you Dana, I fight the fights I want." And so far, I have a much improved fighter, and I've got a LOT less losses on my recorded because of it.

Though Matt Serra just punked me out and now I need to win some more matches to get another shot at the Welterweight title. First legit KO I had against me. Kinda pissed me off.

Lei Tong said:
Very rarely are the last minute matches harder than who you're already slotted to face, and the Cred bump is useful.

Very easy way to get around this. I'm amazed you can do this, but if you are REALLY concerned about cred, just take five training camps with the same training camp. After the fifth, you get a really nice and shiny 80 cred sponsor tag. Guess what? Place it on your trunks 10 times and its 800 creds in your pocket. Yeah, its cheap, but you know what? If I was really getting paid per logo, I'm getting the highest paying ones on my trunks and as many as I can. Go Team Nog!

Lei Tong said:
So my CAF avatar has just started the last year of his career, and is already at an overall rating of 95 (comparatively, BJ is 94 at LW). Would it be in bad taste to build him up even more at this point, to the point where my using him in possible future tournaments would be deemed cheap?

I don't know. It would depend on how well your actual stats are and how well you can cover your weaknesses. If your weaknesses are covered by the defensive stats you've put in, then yes, I would consider that cheap.

However, if your defensive stats don't really "make up" for your weaknesses you actually have, I don't think there's a problem. If I can win a title with a 74 overall against BJ Penn, I think its probably possible to beat you.

Though, I think I'd redo my lightweight since I now have a better understanding of the ground game and I'm better at playing the game that I was before.

Though, seriously, can someone help me figure out how to get tackling down? I mean I've got a 70 in tackling offense and I can't bring anyone the fuck down. Its rediculous.

fazzle said:
Wow. I just earned KO of the Night on my very first fight in career mode. (Well, second I guess, since the first fight is the one in the gym)
I earned my first Fight of the Night and KO of the Night award on that very same fight.

Also for people who want to do striking based characters, here's some things I find work for stand up fights for me. I would like to admit though, I use a boxer, so this might not apply fully, but for anyone that needs some help.

1) All striking should be 70 or better, with your best stats in your most used strikes - Not only does it increase your ability to do damage, but the higher it is, the less you lose stamina wise.

2) Your quickest strike is your best friend - Whatever is your quickest strike, should be the most used. It uses up the least amount of stamina.

3) LB + Strike is your best counter - I don't know if this works for Muay Thai or Kickboxing, but for use Boxers, LB + Strike allows us the hook punch. Its a very effective counter punch and also has a great chance of knocking your opponent out.

4) Mix the strikes up - While you can always keep the strikes at the best spot, not a lot of people can safely defend both high and low. You should always keep a few high, then a few mid, then a few high.

5) RB + after strike allows you to fake - This is something I didn't discover till the end of my Lightweight career, but faking a punch will sometimes allow the person's defense to slip. Though, if you aren't careful, you'll get bitch slapped like Serra did on me when I pull this off.

6) Highest defense points should be your strikes - The highest your ground game stats on defense should be 50. Every other point you can manage should be going towards your striking defense, as this allows you to effectively take more damage and also less the amount of damage that comes your way.

7) Let them come to you - Moving costs stamina. Don't bother dancing around, its not worth it. I mean, if you need to, do so. Otherwise, don't bother. As a striker, you being upright is the most dangerous thing to them. They need to take you down to silence you. To make sure you can get back up quickly, I'd recommend spending quite a few points in ground grapple offense and takedown defense to help you from being taken down as well as getting out of lying there on your back.

Another thing you can do that I don't think people realize, is you can actually lower the amounts in the CAF's base stats when you original create it. So instead of everything being 20, you can lower a few stats to 1 (myself clinch grapple offense and submission offense) and put everything else to 30 (which for some stupid reason is the max). This way you start off much better than before, and can quickly focus in on the stats you want to build up without worry. Helped me with my Welterweight immensely, as I finally went 10 straight before taking a loss.
 

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JHawk said:
Matt Young said:
Which difficulty level?
Beginner. As I said, it's starting to piss me off, and I've yet to lose in exhibition mode with the established fighters so I have to think my CAF sucks

My best advice would be to just go all out throwing, because your fighter doesn't have the skills for takedowns or subs early on. Just throw as many strikes as you can, alternate between working the body and going for the head, and you should be able to win a slugfest.
 

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Precious Roy said:
My best advice would be to just go all out throwing, because your fighter doesn't have the skills for takedowns or subs early on. Just throw as many strikes as you can, alternate between working the body and going for the head, and you should be able to win a slugfest.

Make sure to back off after every flurry to regain your stamina a bit. The flash ko's will happen less if your guy isn't gassed. Usually as a boxer I actually throw body kicks to set up a combination, then jab and back off. Hold block for a few seconds, chill, then go back in and repeat. Once your strikes are powerful you can just do this and smash your way through the division.
 

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Is Anderson Silva the only guy with a move or two that was just designed for him? I don't think anyone has his kind of flying knee. I was hoping Nogueria's Triangle, break free, only to get caught with another triangle would be in this game like the PRIDE one, but sadly it's not.

Last few posts might sound negative from me, but I think this is a great start to what can become a great series of sports games and hope it doesn't become just a roster update with an improvement thrown in every few new games.
 

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I'm not an Anderson Silva fan, but he might be my favorite fighter to play as so far.

If anyone is struggling with clinches or the ground game, play as Anderson Silva, it will give you an easy grasp of how to reverse control or transition between positions. Use the modifier and do a minor transition and you can reverse pretty much anything, and when you get your opponent by the head in the clinch you can have your way with him. It won't be as easy playing with anyone else, but it's a good way to learn the techniques.
 

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GSP, Penn, Rashad, and Brock are also guys I'd recommend for people struggling with transitions on the clinch & ground game to use.
 
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The best thing is really practice, and the tutorial. Most reversals and transitions only require one of two types of right stick rotation, all of which are ridiculously simple compared to fighting games that are not based on real sports. You basically do the up/right, or up/up-left-right. You may also need to hold the left bumper, epending on the situation. I've become decent at standing us both up with a transition (rather than holding till the ref stands us up) when I don't have adequate stamina, or working the guard when I do have stamina to work with.
 

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I've got down to where I'm only on my back for about 10 seconds with guys rated around 82. Takes a bit more effort with a new CAF.
 

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So, after holding onto the belt through like 6 defenses, Brock Lesnar finally lost the Heavyweight title in my career mode to....Fabricio Werdum? :eek:
 

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I bought an Xbox 360 this morning and naturally this was my first purchase. I just messed around in exhibition with a bunch of different fighters. I only lost once as BJ to Huerta. Once I figured out how to throw KO punches/kicks I got a lot better...still haven't pulled off a sub in match, even though I spent all fight as BJ trying.
 

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fazzle said:
So, after holding onto the belt through like 6 defenses, Brock Lesnar finally lost the Heavyweight title in my career mode to....Fabricio Werdum? :eek:

Yeah, Werdum in this game seems to be pretty well built. Cause when he gets that belt, he seemingly is the toughest guy to beat, as he retains for at least 6 or more matches.

Brock in this game seems very fragile in things other than a slug fest.
 

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Broward just took 2 of 3 from me with a pair of ridiculous knockouts.
 

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Brock Lesnar is a fucking monster.

To Tong's credit, they were pretty BS. A pair of flash KOs..one I think was a step punch that gave me a win and the other was a counter punch that rocked him.

Tong did get me in a nice triangle..when Napao adjusted I thought I could get out and then I saw Brock tap.

..and I don't know if I've upset whomever "Dante Malice" is or not. Didn't mean to if I did
 

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It was HSJ. I don't think he'd be upset, but he DOES train, so an apology is probably a safe measure.

The KO's weren't especially fluke-ish (considering the momentum behind them), and I certainly didn't help myself by with my complete inability to play to my fighter's strengths until the final bout. I'm actually lucky to have gotten the tap with that triangle; I was landing more strikes, but Broward's Lesnar was dealing more damage and putting the slow burn on me. I would've been done by the 3rd round.
 

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I suck at this game. I played online and got treated like a 4 year old. I don't think I landed one strike.

I need LOTS of practice. Not to mention that as soon as someone locks a sub on me I tap like a bitch. I'm not sure if that's because I'm so terrible or my CAF.
 

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HSJ and I played either a LW or WW match and I picked Karo.

Got a slam or two..landed some good punches and kept ground control..he transitioned from N/S bottom but I reversed it into a Sprawl offensive position. His stamina was low enough I decided to try a guillotine and well..I won.

After he tapped, his headset icon quickly disappeared and I think he either went offline or switched to another game.
 
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Sounds like a fair fight. What's with this suggestion of you apologizing?
 

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Matt Young said:
Sounds like a fair fight. What's with this suggestion of you apologizing?

I was just fucking around with the "aggressive meathead" stereotype that many people hold of those who train in BJJ and/or MMA.
 
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Ah, okay.

And Broward, I just now saw your reply. I'm actually about to watch a movie on Netflix. It's being removed, and if I don't start it by midnight, I won't be able to watch it. But we should definitely play soon.
 

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meh..if its BJJ, I'd just assume he smoked a ton of weed so that he could be loose and limber so that he could perfect his rubber guard technique.
 

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Ok, I know you can block getting takedown, but is there a way to stop from being taking down? I'm honestly getting whooped on these, yet I've got a 70 defense. The guys who have 50 shouldn't be able to take me down no problem.

I'm honestly getting pissed about the whole thing because they wear me down faster with all these takedowns and I'm worried I'm gonna get KO'd again. I just won the belt for Welterweight and when GSP nearly takes me out with a KO, this obviously is a bigger problem that I originally though. Anyone got some advice for me?
 
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Either use the right stick to sprawl, or jam the face buttons. Once you learn how to do it, you'll be kicking yourself over how simple it is.
 

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Matt Young said:
Either use the right stick to sprawl, or jam the face BUTTons. Once you learn how to do it, you'll be kicking yourself over how simple it is.

Right stick seems hit and miss for me. I've tried using the jam the face buttons since you do that on takedowns as well, but I never seem to get it to work. I'm always sprawled by the other guy and just outright taken down. Its annoying because I know I would be able to do a lot better if I could get that to work right.
 
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